[ga] Dictionary words: was ICANN's Karl Auerbach responds to Joe Sims over .kids domain

[James Love <love@cptech.org>]

Well, you can't have any opportunity to find out if a restricted domain
works, unless a registry is allowed to run a restricted domain.   If you
force the .com .org model on everyone, then there is no opportunity for
experiments, or choice, in terms of management models.  Since the
scarcity of strings is an artificial constraint, why impose monopolistic
management models?    

.com and .org are not words, and they have taken on a meaning that flows
from usage, or at least the early assumptions about their use.   Some
object that any distinction would be made between a string like .coop,
.museum or .union and a string like .biz, which is not a word, or any
number of other possiblities, such as combinations of words, but it
seems to me to be appropriate, because by making this distinction, you
can recognize I believe the legitimate interests of society to have some
say over how important social symbols are used (some dictionary words),
without having an excuse to be a control freak or monopolitist in areas
where there is no plausible claim to restrict access to the TLD space. 
There is no real land grab in the non-dictionary name space, only work,
investment and effort.  There is a land grab for the dictionary words,
and they should be decided according to a different policy.  

 Jamie

Jeff Williams wrote:
> 
> WXW and all assembly members,
> 
>   We [INEGroup] do not agree with either of the below mentioned
> directions.  We believe that the free market system will in the end
> decide what TLD's regardless or TYPE ( Restricted or non-restricted)
> will survive and/or thrive.  Any attempt at trying to manipulate the
> Free Market system in this manner will eventually fail over the
> long haul.
> 
> William X. Walsh wrote:
> 
> > Hello James,
> >
> > Saturday, July 07, 2001, 12:40:42 AM, James Love wrote:
> > > monopolistic environment.  If ICANN has any role in terms of deciding
> > > who is best to run a registry, it would be for dictionary words, where
> > > IMO, at least some strings lend themselves to non-market allocations
> > > (museum, coop, union), or should be reserved for trade associations,
> > > professional organizations or industry groups with greater moral claims
> >
> > I don't agree.  I believe that the market should decide if the strings
> > have any meaning, and that the meaning of the strings is up to each
> > individual registrant.
> >
> > Under the .museum rules, what qualifies an organization as a museum?
> >
> > Does an associate who collects and displays archaic computers at his
> > shop, in a section called the Machine Museum, qualify?  Probably not
> > if you delegate it to some museum organization, but by what right is
> > he excluded?
> >
> > words/strings are not like logos/seals, which are CREATED by an
> > association to identify it's members.  They exist outside of that
> > scope, and their meaning is subjective.
> >
> > Union doesn't have to mean an organized labor organization, either.
> >
> > There is no "moral claim" to these terms that exist outside the DNS,
> > and they absolutely should not exist inside the DNS.
> >
> > It cannot be emphasized enough that the DNS is NOT a directory
> > service.   If you want a directory, there are numerous ones out there,
> > including Dmoz.org, and Yahoo.com.  There are specialized directories
> > as well.  That is not the role of the DNS.
> >
> > ICANN should stay completely out of deciding any meanings or
> > restrictions on TLDs at all.  The standards for creating a restricted
> > TLD should be EXTREMELY high, with a major justification for why those
> > entities should be segregated, and why the string is the appropriate
> > on to segregate them with.
> >
> > Should .union exist? Certainly, but what a waste of the namespace to
> > restrict it to labor organizations only.
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > William X Walsh <william@userfriendly.com>
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> Regards,
> 
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