RE: [council] Conference fees as revenue source
We do not have the exact cost of ICANN physical meetings as a separate
item in ICANN financial reports, the last one beeing at:
but as far as I recall the numbers are circa $US 50,000 per meeting.
Saving money on physical meetings means saving $US 150-200 thousand
per year, i.e. less than 4 percent of ICANN budget in range
of $US5 million.
On the other hand, meetings fees are an extra $200-300,
and certainly too much burden in the budget of many participants.
The ccTLD group used to request for a voluntary donation fee "at gate",
usually suggested to $100, to cover one day of additional meeting we
held before ICANN physical meetings. More or less half of participants
pay that fees, and over time I noted that one or two give $10 or $20.
It is indeed a barrier.
An additional information - there is 240 ccTLDs Managers,
the biggest scores of participation we had at physical meetings
were in Accra March 2002 (82 ccTLDs present or represented, thanks
to outstanding efforts of Francophonie Agency sponsoring 17 ccTLD)
and in Geneva February 2002 (72 ccTLDs present or represented).
In the real world, which the ccTLDs are from and represent, they
frequently need to add also visa costs and related paperwork similar
to what everybody had to do when traveling to Ghana. I recall in 2000
that the ccTLD Manager from Kazakhstan had to travel 700 miles and spend
some time in the capital city at Almaty, to queue up at the US Ambassy
and eventually had his entry to the US (Marina del Rey meeting) refused,
even with help of Mike Roberts:
Let not forget that cost as well.
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Subject: RE: [council] Conference fees as revenue source
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2002 21:52:03 -0400
From: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <email@example.com>
To: <firstname.lastname@example.org>, <Council@dnso.org>
I appreciate your input, Harold. In fact, many participants will
find conference fees a barrier. I fail to see that conference
fees are a solution to ICANN's funding challenges. On the other
hand, it might defray meeting costs themselves. But core funding
is not solved by this mechanism.
I have mixed feelings about this since those who fund their
own expenses, and that is an increasing number, find the extra
$200-300 or so an additional financial burden, when travel and
hotel/expenses costs are in the $1200=-2000 range on average
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Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 9:20 PM
Subject: [council] Conference fees as revenue source
On the last conference call, I was asked to consult with the NCC to
ascertain whether the NCC would regard conference fees as a barrier to
The answer is yes. I have received email from several NCC members
stating that it is already a financial burden for them to participate in
ICANN. A conference fee to attend, particularly if it is on par with those
usually requested by professional conferences in the United States,
would make attendance impossible or prove a serious deterrent for them.
I will add that, from personal experience, many professional conferences
provide scholarships or waive fees for non-profits.
As with many issues at ICANN pertaining to cost, the issue becomes:
does ICANN (and its participants) value the input and contribution of non-
profits sufficiently to accomodate the very real financing problem for non-
profits. Non-profits are a critical part of the Internet community. Many of
our members play vital roles in maintianing an Internet structure in their
countries or providing training and Internet access. I hope that ICANN,
and its members, will value this perspective.
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