[council] ccTLD Members CANNOT attend ICANN meetings in USA

[Elisabeth Porteneuve <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr>]

Dear NC Colleagues,

I am bringing to your attention the difficulties some of ccTLD Members
have to attend the ICANN meetings in Marina del Rey, USA.

The ICANN meetings in Marina del Rey, include a plenary session
dedicated to relationship between ICANN/IANA and ccTLD Administrators.

The achievement of stable agreements with the ccTLD organizations
is explicited in Amendment 2 to the Memorandum of Understanding
between ICANN and the United States Government, on the agenda now.

The ccTLD are world wide, covering all the countries and territories.

At this point I do not see how to proceed without making this difficulties
known to both ICANN and DNSO.

Regards,
Elisabeth Porteneuve

> From owner-cctld-discuss@wwtld.org Fri Nov  3 18:29 MET 2000
> Message-ID: <02f401c045b1$706885c0$6ad391c3@nic.kz>
> From: "Pavel Gusev" <pg@newt.kz>
> To: "John Crain" <crain@icann.org>
> Cc: <cctlds.mail@wipo.int>, <cctld-discuss@wwtld.org>
> Subject: [cctld-discuss] Re: Visa Gussev & Ostroukh
> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2000 22:16:36 +0600
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>     Dear John,
> 
> many thanks for your time and efforts. On the interview we asked all
> questions the officer asks us. We have strong relations with Kazakstan
> (family, work, children, etc.) and they has all the information from
> our answers. The officer simply said "denied" and even don't let
> me show other documents, which I was going to give her. She was wont
> here me anymore and I had gone. After that my secretary sent the official
> request to the embassy in Almaty. From the telefone conversation
> I known that she don't believe that KazNIC organization with 6 people
> of workers can control KZ domain name.
>     In the official reply to our request we've got that I doesn't show
> strong relations with Kazakstan.
>     Our organization located in the Semipalatinsk city, 700 miles
> far away from Almaty where is nearest American Embassy. It was
> impossible for me to stay in Almaty for two more days just only
> for another interview (interviews  monday, wednesday and friday only).
> Elsewhere, we are supporting the domain name for the American
> Embassy in Almaty - usis.kz and they perfectly knows that fact.
> 
>     It seems impossible for KazNIC, a Kazakstani Organization and manager of
> KZ
> ccTLD  to participate in the upcoming ICANN meeting.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Best regards,
> Pavel Gusev
> 
> KazNIC Organization
> Momyshuly, 22
> Semipalatinsk,
> Kazakstan
> tel.: +7 (322) 262-5800
> fax: +7 (322) 266-8808
> mobile: +7 (333) 211-3850
> 
> 
> P.S. I am copying this email to cctld-dicuss list. For interested parties
> the telephones
> of American Embassy, Consular Section in Almaty, Kazastan are +7 327-2
> 63-2880, 63-2426, 50-7621.
> The fax is +7 (3272) 50-6269.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Crain" <crain@icann.org>
> To: "Pavel Gussev" <pg@newt.kz>
> Cc: <ajm@icann.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 4:42 PM
> Subject: Re: Visa Gussev & Ostroukh
> 
> 
> >
> > Hello Pavel,
> >
> > I spoke to the embassy in Almaty this morning.
> >
> > The issue is that you need to prove connection and ties to your
> > own country. This is called section 214B, some legal term:(
> >
> > There was nothing that we can do from this end, this according to the
> > embassy staff.
> >
> > Having dealt with emabassies before the things I can think of that may be
> > useful, talk to the embassy staff to find out exactly what they need,
> > would be permanent work contracts with your employer, residency contracts
> > etc..
> >
> >
> > I can send them a letter requesting that they grant you a visa but it will
> > not help as the only issue is the 214b, proof of intent toreturn to your
> > country. If they/you can think of something which we can do from this end
> > then I will do my best to help.
> >
> > Yours
> >
> > John Crain
> > ICANN
> >
> > On Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Pavel Gussev wrote:
> >
> > > Dear John,
> > >
> > >   Thank you for the invitation to the upcomming ICANN meeting.
> > >   We have a problem with getting visa to US.
> > >   Please call an American embassy in Almaty
> > >   tel +7 327-2 63-2880, 63-2426, 50-7621
> > >
> > >   Thank you a lot for Your assistation.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Pavel Gussev
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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