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[wg-b] WG procedure - reply to D. Schaefer's "Plea for Inclusiveness"
Your message below was unfortunately a casualty of a problem we appear to
be having with the group list, which is currently being looked at.
Although it therefore hasn't been posted yet, it is a very significant
comment and I did not want to wait any further in replying to it.
I understand your points and concerns, however the reason for the
proposed constituency participation you refer to that was discussed at
the pNC meeting, can be traced to the need for
compliance with the ICANN bylaws in having at least one member of each
constituency participate in the WGs and to have a mechanism in place that
would allow that constituency member to present the consensus view of
their constituency to the WG. This was seen as one way to develop a
more effective "outreach" method (from a strictly procedural
standpoint) that would ensure the views of the constituencies were
somehow added to the mix.
In particular, it is not contemplated that there are to be two
"classes" of wg participants, i.e. one from recognized
constituencies, and all others, and certainly not that the latter would
be relegated to "background status". That would clearly
be inconsistent with the already established principles of the wg's (ie,
inclusiveness, bottom-up structure, etc.) as well as being
The input of all WG members is encouraged and needed, regardless of their
membership in a constituency, and whether they represent an organization
or participate in an individual capacity. All members should be,
and are, on equal footing with respect to their participation.
I hope that I have been able to address your "plea"
adequately. I particularly appreciate your concern regarding the
acrimony that has unfortunately arisen in many contexts relating to WG's
and DNSO procedure and I agree with you that it is
counterproductive. I also think you are correct in that some of it
is avoidable by adopting fair and open procedures. Admittedly, this
is still a work-in-progress and there are accordingly procedural
questions to be worked out. But to my knowledge, what we do have so
far does not in any way limit the ability of any one voice to be heard,
or cause it to be given less weight than those of others. I
do hope that in this wg we will be able to adequately give effect to the
goal of equal participation by all interested parties, and I continue to
look forward to any further suggestions you have in this regard.
>Date: Sun, 01 Aug 1999 00:16:33 -0700 (PDT)
>From: d3nnis <email@example.com>
>Subject: [wg-b] wg-c rules
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>Hi all -- a plea for inclusiveness ...
>The Names Council last week discussed a change in the way that WG-C
>operate. There will
>be two classes of participants: those from recognized constituencies,
>all others. The intention is
>apparently to control contentiousness within the group.
>an example of non-responsive comments such as 'We shouldn't be doing
>While we're waiting to receive the charter from Jonathan, I'd like to
>plea that we not adopt this approach in WG-B.
>I am a member of the group that is seeking recognition as the
>Domain Name Owners constituency. While I have no way of knowing
>when we will achieve recognition, I feel that my perspective as an
>individual needs to be a part of WG-B. Relegating my
>background status would not diminish the acrimony that this list has
>far (and which I unequivocally condemn).
>I was the first person to post comments on WIPO Section 4, and in
>comments I advocated that we obtain a legal analysis as part of our
>activity. While I don't think that remark should be
construed as "We
>shouldn't be doing this at all," let me take this
opportunity to state that
>it definitely did not. I agree wholeheartedly with the House
>Committee member who characterized ICANN as a "grand,
>experiment." We in WG-B have the opportunity to make this group
a model for
>consensual decision making and a small victory for ICANN
>The French writer Andre Gluyksman (sic) posits that the challenge of
>democratic decision-making is
>to recognize that every decision generates negative impacts, as well
>benefits. By extension, we as individuals on WG-B need to
>whatever our position is on WIPO 4, we must take responsibility for
>negatives that our point of view will produce, and temper and test
>decision by that type of analysis. I think we have the
ability to control
>some of the acrimony by affirming a
>group commitment to that ideal.
>Thanks for listening!
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