RE: [registrars] UPDATE - Payment Information
Yep ... it does ...
I assume then that people that paid their 2001 dues in the early part of
2001 will be distinguished from those that paid the 2002 dues somehow.
From: Michael D. Palage [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 4:14 PM
To: Rob Hall; Registrars List
Subject: RE: [registrars] UPDATE - Payment Information
Not a dumb question at all.
Because the constituency has more money than it needs, it was decided by the
executive committee not to send out invoices for 2003 at this time.
Therefore, for purposes of voting privileges members that were in good
standing for 2002 were automatically granted good standing for this year
2003. Now the first invoices for 2002 were actually mailed in November 2001.
As stated in my previous email, funds received during this time were handled
by ICANN in our DNSO virtual account (see Excel spread sheet). Thus to
ensure that every account was properly credit and to prevent double
payments, we had to go back and look at payments received toward the tail
end of 2001.
This was an incredible pain in the butt, however, after reconciling bounced
wire transfers, returned checks, multiple ledgers, etc. there is now a
detailed accounting picture for the constituency, and the next elected
Hope that answers your question.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Hall [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> Sent: Friday, February 28, 2003 3:54 PM
> To: Michael D. Palage; Registrars List
> Subject: RE: [registrars] UPDATE - Payment Information
> Can I ask a dumb question. Why do we care about who paid 2000 or
> 2001 dues.
> Wouldn't those that paid 2002 dues be the ones that are current
> and able to
> vote ? I realize for historical reasons we may want to know, but for the
> voting urgency Monday, aren't just the 2002 dues the critical ones ?
> Or am I misreading your explanation.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On
> Behalf Of Michael D. Palage
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 11:01 PM
> To: Registrars List
> Subject: [registrars] UPDATE - Payment Information
> Hello All:
> Last week it was acknowledged that there were problems with
> accounting based
> upon a myriad of problems: multiple bank accounts, multiple treasurers,
> bounced payments, etc.
> Over the past four days I have invested about two to three
> thousand hours of
> my billable time trying to reconcile over four years of constituency
> payments. I would like to thank Bryan our former treasurer from
> taking time
> from his new job and preparing for his wedding to help out. The
> contributions of Tim and Bryan are sorely missed. I would also
> like to thank
> Diane Schroeder at ICANN for taking some time from her busy
> schedule to help
> reconcile some old accounts.
> Now I have good news and I have bad news. The good news is I have almost
> tracked down every payment from every registrar over the past four years,
> not an easy task. Attached are two documents which are the
> principle records
> which I have used in trying to establish an accurate record of monies
> received. Attachment #1 is an Excel spreadsheet that Diane Schroeder
> maintained while our funds where being deposited in the ICANN
> DNSO account.
> Attachment #2 is a text file from Quicken that Bryan maintained once we
> established our own account.
> In addition to the list I posted previously, I have now have proof of
> payment from the following additional registrars:
> Network Solutions;
> Registration Technologies;
> These registrars were the first to pay their 2002 invoices when
> the invoice
> was first sent out in Nov. and show up in the original ledger
> maintained by
> Now for the bad news. There are still some registrars in which I am having
> problems tracking down payment. Although I have a lot of real work
> associated with my day job to do and sleep to accumulate, I want to hand
> walk these following accounts through to make sure that no one is
> denied the
> opportunity to vote.
> Issue #1: eNom
> eNom is listed as paying their first and second year payments, see Excel
> spreadsheet. However, I can find no proof of payment in
> connection with 2002
> dues. Byran stated that on a separate sheet he had eNom listed as being a
> paid up member, unfortunately, I cannot associate this with a
> payment record
> in the information provided. I would ask you to review your
> records and look
> for any payment in the amount of $750 made after 11/01.
> Issue #2: PSI Japan
> PSI-Japan is listed as paying their first and second year payments, see
> Excel spreadsheet. However, I can find no proof of payment in connection
> with 2002 dues. Byran similarly stated that on a separate sheet he had
> PSI-Japan listed as being a paid up member, unfortunately, I cannot
> associate this with a payment record in the information provided. I would
> ask you to review your records and look for any payment in the amount of
> $750 made after 11/01. Prior to 2002 there were no payments for PSI-USA,
> however, they are recorded as making a payment in 2002. Because of the
> potential confusion from an accounting standpoint from the
> constituency side
> please see if you can establish proof of this payment.
> Issue #3: Deutsche Telekom
> Deutsche Telekom has unsuccessfully attempted to make multiple $1,500
> payment for the last year. First they wired money to ICANN, but
> ICANN was no
> longer was allowing deposits to the ICANN DNSO account, so the money was
> sent back. Next they sent a check made out to ICANN for $1,500, I
> have that
> voided check in my possession. Therefore, Henning needs to hook
> up with Ken
> our temporary treasurer and arrange for a new payment to our new account.
> The multiple treasurers and variable accounts has not made this the most
> easiest task.
> In summary, the constituency does not need any more money. We in fact have
> in excess of $30,000 dollars. If anyone believes that they have
> inappropriately been left off of this list please provide proof of payment
> and you will be added immediately. Monday 5 PM EST is the cut-off for
> registrars to establish proof of payment in order to vote.
> I apologize for any convenience this may cause, but I hope that this
> significant investment of my time will be the most accurate record of
> eligible voters, and leave no doubt as to the legitimacy of the
> next couple
> of important votes that the constituency will undertake.
> Best regards,
> Michael D. Palage
> CURRENT LIST
> Go Daddy
> Schlund & Partner
> Alice's Registry
> Active ISP
> America Online
> Melbourne IT
> Register IT S.P.A.
> France Telecom
> Mark Monitor
> Domain Bank
> Domain Pro
> Domain People
> Network Solutions
> Registration Technologies
> @Com Technologies
> USA Webhost, aka USA CSP (awaiting payment)
> ATC (awaiting payment)
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: email@example.com [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On
> > Behalf Of Rick Wesson
> > Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 7:53 PM
> > To: Registrars List
> > Subject: [registrars] signup drive
> > All:
> > members in good standing my participate on the boardrooms.org
> voting site,
> > please see the following for directions on how to sign up for voting
> > privileges.
> > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/registrars/Arc01/msg03439.html
> > -rick