Re: [ga] OECD vs ICANN, re: WHOIS accuracy

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

George and all assembly members,

George Kirikos wrote:

> Hello,
>
> --- Karl Auerbach <karl@CaveBear.com> wrote:
> > The interests of a few trademark owners is hardly a reason to use a
> > system
> > - DNS whois - that is highly susceptable to false or erroneous data
> > and,
> > when accurate, is a major violation of privacy.
>
> It's not only the IP community who is in favour of an accurate WHOIS.
> Law enforcement would like it to be accurate.

  Of course this is very true.  But accuracy does not require that
the registrant provide the personal and private information for
whois data to be publicly listed.

> As would businesses and
> individuals who want to know who they're dealing with when conducting
> electronic transactions, or who need to trace the sources of various
> publications, etc.

  Businesses do not need in advance, a registrants personal and private
information to conduct legal and forthright business with any business
online.  All that is needed is and ADMIN. Contact that is accurate
and reachable.  Nothing more...

> These aren't medical or criminal records being
> published over the 'net -- those are what I would consider "major
> violations of privacy."

  Whether or not "These" are medical or criminal records is
not a rational or reasonable consideration with respect to a persons
or registrants personal privacy.

>
>
> > Except for domain names, I know of no non-dangerous instrumentality
> > for
> > which the purchaser is required to divulge private information onto a
> > public register that has no form of access control and that conforms
> > to no
> > privacy regime, no matter how minimal or weak.
>
> Many business licenses/incorporations allow for anyone to look up who
> the owner/directors of that business are, although it depends on the
> jurisdiction, perhaps.

  Yes this is true in a number of US states and other countries.  However
such information does not include those owners/directors personal
and private information in most instances nor is such personal
and private information required to be listed or otherwise available
for public review.

> Exercise for readers: A domain name can be a
> dangerous instrument! ;)
>
> > In addition, any acceptable whois, whether it be for IP or DNS, ought
> > to
> > conform to the standard set of privacy principles - among which are
> > that
> > those who query the data must prove their legitimate need for the
> > data,
> > identify themselves, prove their identity, and be known to the data
> > subject.
>
> Would you support the "compromise" I've mentioned in the past, namely
> the creation of a "Legal Contact" role (which could be the ISP,
> Technical Contact, the Registrant, or someone else the Registrant
> chooses to use) who is held legally responsible for problems
> originating from a domain, with accurate info that IS in the WHOIS for
> that contact? I think that's all people ultimately need to reach,
> someone who is responsible.

  That "Legal" contact is already available in the "ADMIN." contact
information in the Whois data listing for a Domain name...

>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> http://www.kirikos.com/
>
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