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Re: [ga] WLS done deal

Don and all assembly members,

Don Brown wrote:

> Since NetSol has most of the expired domain names to be deleted, and
> since SNAP appears to be a bedfellow of NetSol/Registry, and since
> SNAP and NetSol/Registry are intent upon the WLS proposal, and since
> there is not a policy or procedure as mentioned in 3.7.5 of the RAA,
> and since no one monitors NetSol/Registry, can we at least "dream"
> about the "possibility" of some hanky-pank?

  Not just "Dream" but count on Hanky-Panky.  However many of us
that have been here for some time and involved in the ICANN process
and before, know that Hanky-Panky is more the rule, rather than the
exception.  The press as well as a number of other groups of interested
parties, senators, congressmen, judges, legal professionals, and individual
stakeholders.  And this is just in the US.

> There is certainly a profit motive, but there are a lot of other
> things wrong with this picture, as well. The most glaring "wrong
> thing" is that this Assembly does not have the leadership, purpose,
> mission or agenda to do anything.

  There is leadership of a sort.  We just had a Chair election after all.
There is purpose and mission, but the current new leadership seems
to wish to thwart to some degree that purpose and mission with respect
to the delete and WLS issue's.  You are quite correct that there is
no agenda that is one of the GA members determination.

> Even when the majority favors a work group, the Chair dictatorially
> kills it on the basis of procedure. If people want to work on a
> proposal to submit to the Assembly for consensus, what could possibly
> be wrong with letting them pursue that mission?

  A very good question.  One that would seem to be that the Chair
should answer directly, completely and very clearly.  Thomas?

> The Assembly doesn't
> have to accept it, but, on the other hand, it may be a product which
> the Assembly can support. Of course, we will never know, when those
> efforts are thwarted/prevented.  Is this an Assembly of peers with
> common interests or is this a Dictatorship?

  Another good question.  And each of the GA members must answer
this one for themselves individually I am afraid...

> I joined this Assembly at the suggestion of WXW, primarily to oppose
> the WLS proposal, but also in an effort to do something for the common
> good. It is disappointing to find that this Assembly is an Assembly in
> name only and that a lot of the traffic on this list is aimed at
> character assignations, personality conflicts and flame wars, as
> opposed to what I expected -- an Assembly aimed at getting things
> accomplished in the best interest of all of us and the Registrants.

  Sadly much of what you say here is true.

> For those incumbents reading this message and thinking about how we
> can kill this kid who threatens our sand pile, don't fret. I have my
> plate piled full most all of the time -- I am writing this, in fact,
> after 9 p.m. and I'm still at work. Therefore, y'all "sand pile
> threatened" don't have to worry about me being a participant so very
> much longer.  I just don't have the time for nonsense and noise.

I hope you will reconsider here Don.  Your participation here
 is needed and has been very frank, and above board.  I for one
appreciate it.


> When I was Div VP for CSC, I never told anyone what to do.
> Conversely, I always asked them what they thought we should do.  We
> made a lot of money and there wasn't one year when I didn't get the
> max of my bonus.  I wasn't me - it was the people who had a vested
> interest and a "want to."  Nuff said.

  Yes, and this is a trait of good and responsible leadership.  There are
some here that do not understand this However.

> Thanks,
> Wednesday, January 23, 2002, 7:48:13 PM, William X Walsh <william@wxsoft.info> wrote:
> WXW> No, Sotiris, Netsol is an affiliate of Snapnames, and is offering
> WXW> their backorder "snapback" service, as do many registrars.
> WXW> It's not the WLS.  Snapnames is competing for the names at the
> WXW> Registry drop with the others who offer these services.
> WXW> Wednesday, Wednesday, January 23, 2002, 8:34:22 PM, Sotiris Sotiropoulos wrote:
> >>>From the Verisign/Netsol Registrar's page:
> >> "Is the domain name you want already taken? If so, like
> >> hundreds of thousands every month, it may soon expire and
> >> become available again. You can now "back-order" your name
> >> with SnapBack™
> >> When you Back-Order a name:  SnapBack will monitor the
> >> name around the clock, "24/7", so you don't have to. If it
> >> becomes available during the next year, SnapBack will
> >> attempt to acquire the name for you the millisecond it
> >> becomes available. SnapBack is the best chance in the
> >> industry to acquire the name automatically. The cost of a
> >> successful registration is included in the $69 price. If
> >> the original registrant renews, or we were otherwise not
> >> able to register the name, you can transfer your
> >> subscription to a new name without cost."
> >> So, it seems the WLS has been implemented.
> >> Question:  Who (if anyone) would be better informed about
> >> the "millisecond" of domain availability than the
> >> Registry?
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