[ga] GA summary 2002-01.
This summary covers the DNSO GA mailing list's discussions during
the first week of 2002. List archives are available online at
Criticism and suggestions on how to improve this are welcome.
The election for the GA representative to the NC Transfer Task
Force, began on Thursday 3 January 2002, and will end on Thursday 10
January 2002. The candidates are Dan Steinberg, Eric Dierker, and
Jeff Williams. Details on the vote are available from
The call for endorsement for the election of the GA Chair and
Alternate Chair closed on Friday, 04 January 2002. The vote began
Saturday 5 January 2002, and will end on 12 January 2002. The
candidates are Kristy McKee, Thomas Roessler, Alexander Svensson,
and Eric Dierker. Details on the vote are available from
(i) .org divestiture. Jeff Williams forwarded a draft (version 5.2,
from Jan 4, 2002) of the Task Force's report on the .org divestiture
Schneiders (the GA's representative to this task force) followed up,
noting that it's not clear whether the draft posted is the final
version, but that it was posted to the NCDNHC list. He noted that
he believes that the key points he stands for are "quite well
represented in the text", and that he's happy with it.
There was little discussion on this text. It should, however, be
noted that the .org divestiture TF is currently the subject of
active discussions on the names council list, see various threads at
(ii) Structure task force. Dave P. Farrar (the GA representative to
the DNSO Structure Task Force) provided a summary of options and
discussions on the task force. See
(iii) UDRP task force: The time line for the UDRP questionnaire has
been extended until February 6.
(iv) Deleted domain name handling. On December 30, 2001, a PDF
document circulated on the registrars constituency mailing list
detailed plans on a waiting list service.
The proposal goes like this (from Verisign's document): "WLS is a
service whereby potential registrants ('subscribers') through their
selected, participating registrar, may purchase a subscription tied
to a domain name currently registered. [...] All current processes
would remain unchanged with one exception. A domain name
registration that is subscribed to on WLS will be registered to the
subscriber when the current domain name registration is deleted
through normal operational procedures. Initially, a domain name
registration could only have one subscription pending at a time."
Note, in particular, that according to this proposal the registrar
would still be the only one who does business with registrants
directly. This includes the process of fulfilling a subscription:
When this process is done, the domain in question will be registered
for the (now former) subscriber through the registrar which was used
to place the subscription.
Pricing at the registrar level is at US $ 40 (wholesale) for a
Feedback on the proposal is expected from the registrars'
constituency by January 18, 2002.
To implement the proposal, Verisign has licensed technology from
The proposal provoked ample, and sometimes heated, discussions on
the GA list, which is still going on.
The discussion included fears that the deal may already be done
(which was denied by Ross Rader "if the registrars have anything to
do with it"). Ross also pointed to a message discussing the
proposal which he sent to the registrars list
Some (WX Walsh, DP Farrar) doubted that the proposal may have any
benefit for the internet community as a whole, as opposed to
Verisign's stakeholders. To this, Chuck Gomes of Verisign responded
that requests for a wait list service have been there since 1996.
Bret Fausett noted that putting the service at the registry level
would mean an improvement to registrants: You'd just buy one
subscription through your favorite registrar, and you'd be
guaranteed that you get a domain name if and when it lapses. With a
purely registrar-based system, you'd pay various services, and that
just for improving the chance that you may get the domain when it's
In a message forwarded by WXW from some other list (the registrars
list?), George Kirikos elaborates on various points of criticism on
the proposal. In particular, George asks why Verisign registry has
not implemented any of the simple technical fixes proposed earlier.
Suggestions include "rate-limiting connections, pushing out lists of
candidate drop names, and returning richer error codes". He also
lists "numerous competing firms and registrars attempting to
register expired domains, using the existing fair and transparent
system" (besides Snapnames).
In a follow-up, Chuck Gomes points out that "every registrar would
have equal opportunity to participate or not participate". George
Kirikos replies that his problem is "leveraging the monopoly power
of the registry, to enter a 'new business', which puts existing
market participants out of business".
Finally, Ross Rader has forwarded an alternative proposal from the
icann-deletes mailing list. The proposal from Afternic.com, called
Registry Re-circulation System, basically boils down to an auction
of expired domain names during a finite amount of time after they
have been dropped.
Thomas Roessler http://log.does-not-exist.org/
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