[ga] Re: [ga-roots] Two standards
Well, Marc, some alluded to the Tea Party for the ccTLD move.
As I see the situation is as this:
- the Lords supported by the Crown (sorry, USG)
"I can as ICANN"
- the Gentlemen Farmers from the Country Club
- the rebels from the TLDA
- the Pirates from New.net and Nameslinger.
- the non commited (NC) from drowning DNSO
Question: will the Gentlemen Farmers turn Insurgents?
May be the key will be the Boxers Revolt.
There is a big meeting next forthnight in Paris on ".eu"
as the key for European e-commerce. I presume the
main question from the public will be: "will Europe join
On 19:59 02/06/01, Marc Schneiders said:
>Pardon me for being short. You forget two things:
>1. ICANN is backed up by your government, the US. Others accept this
>so far. That gives all those supported by ICANN a huge
>advantage, at no cost. Nearly all ISps use the ICANN root. Don't tell
>others to be competitive. They haven't this free support.
>2. ICANN is still pretending it is working on some democracy in its
>organisation. I have not much faith in that, but the long talking
>process slows down counter efforts, e.g. a euroroot. Alternatives (say
>under the UN) are perhaps worse. So we'll all wait, and wait, and
>wait, and wait.
>Well, now we are not even supposed to discuss alt roots anymore in the
>DNSO. Or did I get that wrong?
>On Sat, 2 Jun 2001, at 09:54 [=GMT-0700], Eric Dierker wrote:
> > It is not so doom and gloom. When the bully makes an ass out of himself
> > he loses some of his power. As Michael Powell noted in his interview
> > recently, we need less regulation and not more. It is consumer choices
> > which will drive this ether communicated world. ICANN is really not
> > holding up anyone. Technical and commercial forces are moving as fast as
> > they can at 10,000 new users a day- 400 plus per hour. Catch a movie and
> > have a nice dinner and you have just missed over a thousand new
> > customers. ICANN controlling or slowing things down is like Wilbur
> > stopping a train wreck.
> > Our tiny little company drives over 14 million hits per month, and we do
> > not focus on driving hits, we just build them and they come. Do you think
> > we could not throw a million or so toward or against an alt root. ICANN
> > is good for discussion, but if you think they control the net and hold
> > things up - rethink.
> > eric(or has the "names" council given me a new one - oops that is outside
> > their scope)
> > Marc Schneiders wrote:
> > > Apparently there are two standards in operation. That is if I
> > > understand Cochetti some 10 minutes ago on the NC webcast.
> > >
> > > We should let VeriSign go on with its multilingual testbed, although
> > > there is no IETF standard, nor an ICANN board decision regarding
> > > non-ASCII domain names. They cannot freeze for two months
> > > until the IETF sets a standard. Why? Because otherwise others will run
> > > away with it and make the money, in stead of the ICANN backud up
> > > companies...
> > >
> > > However, where there are already TLDs running, for years, in the
> > > normal English language ASCII world, there we should protect against
> > > outside of ICANN processes. Therefore we ignore the alt roots, new.net
> > > and the like. We have a strong enough foot in this market and use
> > > ICANN to keep others out. So we do not even want to discuss talking to
> > > these others.
> > >
> > > If ICANN buys this line, it clearly shows that it is just legitimizing
> > > some favoured companies.
> > >
> > > Two standards. The only difference: we have the market already, or we
> > > don't. Are we buying this?
> > >
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