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Re: Re: [ga] Final draft of proposed mailing list rules



you don't have any support outside the clan roberto - and the majority of
the audience does not want you.  no one here wanted you as our
chairman.  I think it's this sort of thing the Names Council wants
sanitized - the truth.

On Thu, 20 Jan 2000, Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> Ellen,
> 
> You wrote:
> >
> >My definition represents that of an historical archivist.  I have
> >professional experience in this area, so this is not a "metaphysical
> >position".
> 
> I fully agree.
> 
> The main purpose of the "integral" version is to provide elements for 
> the historical archivist. There shall be complete record of all the 
> postings that made it to the list, and also, I assume, of the bounced 
> messages, the messages in violation of the cross-posting rules, the 
> messages exceeding sizes (header and/or complete size), the technical 
> glitches, and so on.
> 
> No question about the fact that all the material has to be preserved 
> untouched for the histiorians - and maybe also other professionals ;>).
> The quesion is about the need for historians to have the integrality of 
> the records online in real-time.
> 
> 
> >  There's the true, untouched mailing list, which should be
> >ga@dnso.org, and there's the smaller version, based on what a 
> gatekeeper
> >deems relevant and other criteria.
> 
> 
> Exactly (terminology notwithstanding).
> 
> The "smaller version" has *very good chances* to be the working tool, 
> and as such it has *very good reason* for being online in real-time, 
> because it has to be used by people not with the attitude of a social 
> scientist that analyzes the past events but with the attitude of a 
> participant to a debate that is happening online in real-time.
> 
> 
> >  A moderated list may not reveal, say,
> >that one person contributes 65% of the traffic, that five people 
> contribute
> >90% of all the traffic.  So a moderated list presents a different skew.
> 
> >
> 
> Exactly.
> It gives the chance to hear also the voice of the all-but-five by 
> reducing the traffic to 10%.
> 
> 
> >Keep your finger on the delete button and voila, you have the moderated
> 
> >list you want.  This is neither rocket science nor shadow boxing.
> 
> Not really.
> We need meaningful archives for newcomers.
> Frankly, anybody willing to join the crowd and contribute, if told to 
> check out http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc<nn>/maillist.html will 
> rapidly change his/her mind and run away as fast as possible ;>).
> 
> 
> >  Over and
> >far out.
> 
> Regards
> Roberto
>