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Re: [ga] Proposal for mailing list policy

On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 08:51:08AM -0800, Joe Kelsey wrote:

[excellent discussion]

Just a couple of points:

> Censorship in the United States is defined by the government restricting
> the rights of free expression.  When a private company (e.g., ICANN)
> wishes to carry on a productive discussion, it has every right to insist
> on minimum rules for civility and decorum.

Louis Touton posted an analysis of this issue for the NC or such a 
while back, and pointed out that there was no requirement in the bylaws 
that the DNSO provide a GA list at all.

> I, for one, do not wish to
> be subjected to the childish and unproductive antics of such entities as
> those who identify themselves as the so-called jeff williams and joe
> baptista, whether or not these entities are real persons or merely
> pranksters pulling our legs.  They have nothing productive to add and
> want only to draw attention to themselves.

Not only that, but on occasion the behaviour is truly offensive and/or
threatening.  If you are walking in the park and a beggar asks for some 
money, that may be free speech.  But if they casually finger a 
switchblade knife while asking for money, that's a different matter.  
It's very convenient for online thugs to hide under "freedom of 
speech", but it is thuggery, nonetheless.

> Censorship in most of the rest of the world is fairly close to the US
> model.  In any case, ICANN is a private US corporation, thus limiting
> discussion list membership is in no way censorship.

This is true in the public sector as well.  Disruptive behavior will get
you thrown out of all kinds of government fora.

Kent Crispin                               "Do good, and you'll be
kent@songbird.com                           lonesome." -- Mark Twain