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[ga] NCtelecon, Dec 15th, 1999, results

The DNSO Secretariat appologize for being in late -- the minutes
should be published within 3 weeks after a meeting.

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     DNSO Names Council Teleconference on December 15th, 1999 - minutes

December 15th, 1999.

Proposed agenda and related documents:


Adopted agenda:

  1. Election of GA Chair for year 2000

  2. Election of NC Chair

  3. Liaison Co-Chair for WG B

          Note: Philip Sheppard volunteered

  4. Discussion of Budget/Business Plan

          Report from Ken Stubbs

          Report from Constituencies on the request to pay US $5000 for 1999

  5. Discussion regarding GA Mailing lists

          Report from Elisabeth Porteneuve regarding her meeting with Louis
          Touton and Andrew McLaughlin

Postponed to the next meeting

  1. Adoption of proposal for new WG to review implementation of UDRP

          Report from Ted Shapiro

  2. Discussion of NC Procedural Rules

          Report from Richard Lindsay,
          http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc03/msg00217.html and

List of attendees:

   Tony Harris             ISPCP
   Hirofumi Hotta          ISPCP
   Michael Schneider       ISPCP             absent, replaced by A-K.Orth
   Philip Sheppard         Business
   Masanobu Katoh          Business
   Theresa Swinehart       Business
   (AAA replacement)       Registrars        not yet elected
   Ken Stubbs              Registrars
   Richard Lindsay         Registrars
   Don Telage              gTLD
   Ted Shapiro             IP                absent
   Caroline Chicoine       IP
   Victoria Carrington     IP
   Dennis Jennings         ccTLD
   Patricio Poblete        ccTLD
   Nigel Roberts           ccTLD             absent
   Raul Echeberria         NCDNH             absent
   Kathryn Kleiman         NCDNH
   Youn Jung Park          NCDNH
   Louis Touton            ICANN Legal Counselor
   Andrew McLaugnlin       ICANN Senior Adviser
   Elisabeth Porteneuve    DNSO Secretariat

Youn Jung Park was calling the NC teleconference from Ghana, and had
difficulties to get an US phone number starting with "8xx" (not toll free).
It seems that "8xx" numbers are simply filtered by some telcos.
Youn Jung Park was able to join the teleconference thanks to the help
of Ben Edelman, providing a bridge relay.

Chair Caroline Chicoine (IPC)

Quorum present

  1. Election of GA Chair for year 2000

     It was resolved that the election for the GA Chair and the GA Alternate
     Chair will be done by e-mail, with sequential voting, starting
     tomorrow, during two days Dec 16th and Dec 17th.

  2. Election of NC Chair

     It was felt that the current system with the NC Chair rotating,
     changing between constituencies each 6 month approx. shall be
     maintained. Being a Chair is a working position, time consuming,
     neutral and responsible to all constituencies, not honorous. Whereas
     some NC members already demonstrated they are indeed able to very well
     manage meetings, some others are probably as talented, and shall be
     encouraged. It is foreseen to have an Alternate NC Chair as well. More
     discussion on that subject will be by e-mail.

  3. Liaison Co-Chairs

        o Liaison Co-Chair for WG B

          Philip Sheppard and Kathryn Kleiman volunteered for that position.
          A vote by e-mail may be helpfull to choose between the two

        o Liaison Co-Chair for WG C

          The initial WG C Liaison Co-Chair, Javier Sola, is no longer a
          member of the NC. The WG C needs guidence on the report to the NC.
          A call for candidates, then if necessary a vote by e-mail.

  4. Discussion of Budget/Business Plan

          Report from Ken Stubbs

               Some information was gathered from the Berkman Center
               (Ben Edelman), some from the DNSO Secretariat (Elisabeth

               The current scheme (fees for ICANN, fees for the DNSO,
               fees for constituencies) makes a lot of layers..

               The information is needed on legal interpretation on how
               the funding should be colleted.

               In the initial phase the budget should be reviewed

               The communication to members constituencies is an
               important aspect.

               Andrew McLaughlin informed that according to the Bylaws
               the ICANN Board has to approve expenditures and deposit
               of the DNSO.

          Report from Constituencies on the request to pay US $5000 for 1999

               It seems that the majority of constituencies are able to
               collect money, provided that invoices are sent.

               Andrew McLaughlin informed that the NC debt with regards
               to the meeting rooms in 1999 may be cleaned up by ICANN
               budget, but the webcasting cost is to be paied to the
               Berkman Center.

               The webcasting from Africa will be probably more costly
               than formers, but it is essential to have it done, and
               the NC accepts this expense.

               It is expected that Ken will receive missing information
               from all interested and the draft budget will be
               presented on January 15th.

  5. Discussion regarding GA Mailing lists

          Report from Elisabeth Porteneuve regarding her meeting with Louis
          Touton and Andrew McLaughlin, see

     In the debate about alternate possibilities to current mailing lists
     Don Telage described a web based sofisticated software, with security
     futures, and different acces offered to different groups of

     Kathryn Kleiman pointed out that hight quality web-based software imply
     always volume, and most ressources, which subsequently increases a gap
     between the rich and the poor people access to the Internet. Kathy
     suggested that more substance on one list, less noise, and the elected
     GA Chair and Alternate Chair will hopefully bring some authority to the
     GA-ga list.

     Patricio Poblete observed that tools provide a good fonctionnality, but
     remain still vulnerable if some decide to sabotage everything.

     Andrew McLaughlin and Louis Touton suggested setting up an agenda to
     the DNSO as a whole: WG's, GA, NC, everybody, and organizing a work and
     discussion. The NC should take a leadership in structuring a work and
     not leave the GA-ga abandonned to the opposition.

     Dennis Jennings made a similar analysis, without a work to do the GA-ga
     became dominated by crazies.

     It was pointed out that the membership list should be controlled by the
     NC. Richard Lindsay volounteered to lead the task force on the list


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