Re: [council] RE: ICCAN AT-LARGE PROCESS (URGENT RESPONSE REQUESTED)

["Dr. Nii Quaynor" <quaynor@ghana.com>]

The Sr Villaseca procedure is an inovation, efficient working from
developing countries.  These are part of the outreach challenges the icann
process faces.

Regards,
Nii
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew McLaughlin <mclaughlin@pobox.com>
To: Patricio Poblete <ppoblete@nic.cl>
Cc: <council@dnso.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 2:05 AM
Subject: RE: [council] RE: ICCAN AT-LARGE PROCESS (URGENT RESPONSE
REQUESTED)


> Patricio:
>
> Please don't take my comments as a negative reflection on Sr. Villaseca,
or
> his colleagues.  I have no doubt as to their integrity as individuals.  My
> point is to explain why the verification process is quite difficult, and
can
> result in people not getting PIN numbers.
>
> Our rules required each individual to sign up individually, with an
> individual email address.  Sr. Villaseca and his colleagues (or perhaps an
> assistant, with the best of intentions) all applied at the same time, from
> the same machine, with the same email address and physical address.  In
that
> situation, our procedures flagged them as apparent duplicates, as
indicated
> by the posted rules.
>
> Best regards,
>
> --Andrew
>
>
>
>
> [ -----Original Message-----
> [ From: owner-council@dnso.org [mailto:owner-council@dnso.org]On Behalf Of
> [ Patricio Poblete
> [ Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 2:30 PM
> [ To: mclaughlin@pobox.com
> [ Cc: cchicoine@dkwlaw.com; council@dnso.org
> [ Subject: Re: [council] RE: ICCAN AT-LARGE PROCESS (URGENT RESPONSE
> [ REQUESTED)
>

>

> [ Dear Andrew and Caroline,
>

> [ I happen to know Max Villaseca and some of the lawyers that work
> [ at Estudio Federico Villaseca, and I can attest that most of the
> [ people in the list, and very likely all of them, are real and
> [ distinct individuals. In particular, Sergio Amenabar was chair of
> [ ACHIPI (Chilean Association for Industrial Property) at the time NIC
> [ Chile started using an arbitration-based dispute resolution system, and
> [ we worked in close collaboration with him.
>

> [ Patricio Poblete
>

> [ [">" = Andrew McLaughlin]
> [ >
> [ > Caroline:
> [ >
> [ > It's certainly true that not everyone received a PIN letter.
> [ Figuring out
> [ > how common this was, and for what reason (bad address
> [ originally entered;
> [ > postal system errors or slowness;  etc.), will be a central part of
the
> [ > post-election study.
> [ >
> [ > Your email gives me a good opportunity to remind everyone that
> [ the reason
> [ > for the PIN letter was to detect efforts at fraud.  All of the
> [ applications
> [ > on Mr. Villaseca's list were flagged as duplicates, because:
> [ >
> [ > -- all had the same email address
> [ > -- all had the same postal address
> [ > -- all were entered via the same IP address, within a 15 minute period
> [ >
> [ > Thus, these applications appeared to violate several of the At Large
> [ > membership rules:
> [ >
> [ > "To be an At Large member, the applicant may not at any time use a
> [ > fictitious or anonymous name or address in connection with
> [ ICANN At Large
> [ > membership. Violation of this rule will result in permanent
> [ cancellation of
> [ > your membership."
> [ >
> [ > and
> [ >
> [ > "ICANN will use generally accepted techniques to detect multiple and
> [ > fraudulent membership registrations, and will invalidate any
> [ application or
> [ > membership that appears to include an invalid identity, invalid email
> [ > address, or invalid physical address."
> [ >
> [ > If our judgment was wrong, those applicants can explain it via email
to
> [ > <atlarge@icann.org>.
> [ >
> [ > --Andrew
> [ >
> [ >
> [ > [ -----Original Message-----
> [ > [ From: cchicoine@dkwlaw.com [mailto:cchicoine@dkwlaw.com]
> [ > [ Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:27 PM
> [ > [ To: ajm@icann.org
> [ > [ Cc: council@dnso.org
> [ > [ Subject: RV: ICCAN AT-LARGE PROCESS (URGENT RESPONSE REQUESTED)
> [ >

> [ >

> [ > [ Dear Andrew,
> [ >

> [ > [ I am sorry to bother you, but like others, I have received
> [ concerns from
> [ > [ certain individuals in my Constituency that despite timely
> [ applying for At
> [ > [ Large membership, they have yet to receive a PIN.  They wrote
> [ to me and
> [ > [ asked whether there was anything I could do as his NC
representative.
> [ >

> [ > [ In particular,  Mr. Villaseca has yet to receive a reply to
> [ the email he
> [ > [ sent to ICANN and reprinted below.
> [ >

> [ > [ Staci Barsness also wrote to Jody Baram of the At Large
> [ > [ Membership advising
> [ > [ that she had not received her pin number.  Ms Baram
> [ apparently advised her
> [ > [ that her
>  pin letter was mailed in May (although it was never
> [ received by
> [ > [ Staci) and it is too late to do anything about it now.  She
> [ was told to
> [ > [ look forward to voting in future elections.
> [ > [ Please advise whether there is anything I can do to further
> [ assist these
> [ > [ individuals.  Thank you for your time and consideration.
> [ >
>
> [ > [ Caroline G. Chicoine
> [ > [ Doepken Keevican & Weiss
> [ > [ 211 N. Broadway, Ste 1500
> [ > [ St. Louis, MO 63102
> [ > [ 314-588-2013
> [ > [ 314-588-2009 (fax)
> [ > [ 314-378-3269 (cell)
> [ > [ cchicoine@dkwlaw.com
> [ >
>
> [ >
>
> [ > [ -----Mensaje original-----
> [ > [ De: Max Villaseca <max@villaseca.cl>
> [ > [ Para: atlarge@icann.org <atlarge@icann.org>
> [ > [ Fecha: Martes, 29 de Agosto de 2000 06:17 p.m.
> [ > [ Asunto: ICCAN AT-LARGE PROCESS (URGENT RESPONSE REQUESTED)
> [ >
>
> [ > [ Att.:  Jody Baram
> [ > [         At - Large Administrator
> [ >
>
> [ >
>
> [ > [ Dear Mrs. Baram:
> [ >
>
> [ > [ On July 7, 2000, we completed Icann's membership application
> [ and received
> [ > [ by return e-mail confirmation page together with our tracking/member
> [ > [ number.  However, up to date no pin has been received by
> [ postal mail so we
> [ > [ are unable to activate our memberships.  Our names and member
> [ numbers are
> [ > [ as follows:
> [ >
>
> [ > [ VALENTINA GUTIERREZ         301683
> [ > [ BLAS BELLOLIO                     301633
> [ > [ LORETO VERA                       301650
> [ > [ ENRIQUE TAVERNE               301616
> [ > [ JUAN CRISTOBAL GUZMAN    301588
> [ > [ SERGIO AMENABAR              301551
> [ > [ BERNARDO SERRANO           301541
> [ > [ EDUARDO MOLINA                 301512
> [ > [ MAX F. VILLASECA                 301465
> [ > [ EDUARDO LUCHSINGER         301487
> [ >
>
> [ > [ Your advice will be greatly appreciated.
> [ >
>
> [ > [ ESTUDIO FEDERICO VILLASECA
> [ >
>
> [ >
>
> [ > [ Max F. Villaseca M.
> [ >
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