Re: [IFWP] As ICANN unravels ISOC launches Smear campaign against Milton Meuller and Michael Sondow

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Dan and all,

  Well said, and I completely agree.  Some folks are too easily blinded by
their own short sightedness.

Dan Steinberg wrote:

> I know that there has been plenty of postings on this subject later in
> the day but I really could n let this one go by.
>
> Are you saying that people can't change or people cannot/should not
> change their opinions of people over time?
> That's a scary thought.
> Rather I thing we should be applauding Milton Mueller and Michael
> Sondow for their ability to find compromise and work together towards
> a common goal.  The ability to compromise is something that has been
> sorely missing from this process.
>
> And I leave you all with a final thought:  If you believe everything
> Marty says, think of what would be required for Milton to go to such
> lengths.  The alternative must b truly horrendous.
> G'night all.  I've had a long day.
>
> "Martin B. Schwimmer" wrote:
> >
> > And when Cooper Union canceled its DNS conference in September of last
> > year, was that because Sondow was a newbie, or were they afraid he was a
> > potentially violent nutjob?
> >
> > This is what his ally of the moment, Milton Mueller, wrote to this list on
> > Sept 22, after Sondow unilaterally cancelled the event:
> >
> > "For reasons that I am not privy to, Mr. Sondow has chosen to
> > disassociate himself from the event. That he is now claiming that
> > the event is cancelled gives you some idea of his tactics."
> >
> > So we see the depth and sincerity of Cook's and Mueller's alliance with
> > Sondow.
> >
> > Paul Garrin wrote that day:
> >
> > "It seems that Mr. Sondow has taken it upon himself to sabotage
> > and then cancel the event at Cooper Union.  Everything was
> > arranged and all parties, to my knowledge were prepared to
> > fulfill their contributions to the event.
> >
> > Mr. Sondow, for inexplicable reasons, perhaps suffering
> > fatigue or mental breakdown, suddenly became distraught
> > and began to make threatening telephone calls to the staff
> > at Cooper Union, including the President and Vice President,
> > asserting that he (Mr. Sondow) would physically disrupt the
> > event should it proceed as planned, as well as flood the
> > internet with discrediting messages about Cooper Union,
> > the DNS.Forum event, and persons connected to the event,
> > including myself.
> >
> > Given the lack of clear credibility of Mr. Sondow, and his
> > apparent "one-man organization", so-called "ICIIU", it is
> > no great loss that Mr. Sondow has disassociated himself from
> > the event.  Apparently, he was upset that the credit was
> > being shared by all the contributing organizations involved
> > in the event, and threw a tantrum at the last minute and
> > decided to unilaterally cancel the event on what appeared
> > to be a self-indulgent, capricious whim."
> >
> > Frankly, it is evidence of the absurdity of this process that Sondow's
> > status as a representative of anyone other than himself is seriously
> > debated for more than a millisecond.
> >
> > Now before there is an attempt to distract the list's attention with
> > unfounded accusations about my affiliations, I note that I am not employed
> > by or paid by or represent anyone jockeying for position for control of the
> > non-commercial constituency, and I don't really care who wins out.  I did
> > pay my $35 to join the Internet Society but I only did so to meet women
> > (film fans will appreciate that reference to Zero Mostel's line in "The
> > Front" when explaining why he attended communist meetings in the '30's -
> > the McCarthyism reference seems appropriate here).
> >
> > Professor Froomkin used the term "purloined letter" when referring to the
> > WIPO report.
> >
> > The "purloined letter" technique may be better applied to those who
> > selected the Interim Board.
> >
> > Attention paid to Sondow is attention diverted from a more important issue:
> > why is there a process which allows this farce where we spend so much time
> > paying attention to Sondow?
> >
> > Who benefits?
> >
> > p.s. I stopped writing to Sondow because in response to my question "how
> > could you possibly know what I am thinking?" he wrote back to say that he
> > could read my mind.  While I believe that he meant that metaphorically and
> > not schizophrenically, that type of remark illustrates why he is utterly
> > inappropriate for any consensus-oriented entity, and why if someone wanted
> > to perpetuate the status quo and exert power behind the scene, yet retain
> > the illusion of democracy, they would "delegate" authority to a "consensus
> > manager."
> >
> > At 06:28 PM 6/2/99 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Martin B. Schwimmer a écrit:
> > >
> > >> In a series of posts on September 27, 1998, Gordon Cook posted publicly the
> > >> following remarks directed at Sondow:
> > >>
> > >> "you are hardly the most welcome person on this list.  I advise you to take
> > >> your personal attacks to private mail."
> > >>
> > >> and
> > >>
> > >> "gee just when sondow had shown some signs of maturity, he throws another
> > >> lovely tantrum......."
> > >
> > >Ah, Mr. Schwimmer, you have been lying in wait all this time to get
> > >even with me for besting you in the debates subsequent to the
> > >Monterrey DNSO.org conference.
> > >
> > >It's true, when I first began posting on these lists I was subject
> > >to flaming and, having a passionate nature, responded in kind,
> > >which, from a newbie, was not taken well. But I have since paid my
> > >dues, as they say, and have found common ground with those, like
> > >Gordon Cook, who are fighting for justice and freedom on the
> > >Internet. I only wish that you were one of them.
> > >
> > >
>
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> Dan Steinberg
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