DNSO Names Council Teleconference on 24 July 2002 - minutes

25 July 2002.

Proposed agenda and related documents http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20020617.NCteleconf-agenda.html

List of attendees:

Elisabeth Porteneuve   ccTLD
Oscar Robles Garay     ccTLD absent, apologies,proxy to Elisabeth Porteneuve
Philip Sheppard        Business 
Marilyn Cade           Business 
Grant Forsyth          Business 
Greg Ruth              ISPCP  absent
Antonio Harris         ISPCP 
Tony Holmes            ISPCP absent, apologies, proxy to Tony Harris
Philipp Grabensee      Registrars 
Ken Stubbs             Registrars
Bruce Tonkin           Registrars 
Roger Cochetti         gTLD  
Jordyn Buchanan        gTLD  
Cary Karp              gTLD 
Ellen Shankman         IP    
Laurence Djolakian     IP 
J. Scott Evans         IP absent, apologies, proxy Ellen Shankman, Laurence Djolakian   
Harold Feld            NCDNH 
Chun Eung Hwi          NCDNH 
Erick Iriate           NCDNH 

16 Names Council Members

Louis Touton           ICANN Staff

Glen de Saint Géry     NC Secretary
Philippe Renaut          MP3 Recording Engineer/Secretariat

MP3 recording of the meeting by the Secretariat: http://www.dnso.org/dnso/mp3/20020724.NCteleconf.mp3

Quorum present at 15:10 (all times reported are CET which is UTC + 2 during summer time in the northern hemisphere).

Philip Sheppard chaired this NC teleconference.

Approval of the Agenda
The agenda was approved with a proposal by Ken Stubbs to discuss the NC chair elections.

Decision 2: Secretariat will post an election schedule for the next NC teleconference on August 1, 2002.

Item 1. Summary of last meeting:


Ken Stubbs moved the adoption of the minutes seconded by Ellen Shankman,
The motion was carried.

Decision 2: Motion adopted.

Item 3: Wait Listing Service - report and vote to adopt
IPC statement:
gTLD statement:
Supporting material and substantive submissions on WLS
Marilyn Cade invited Louis Touton be on the call and welcomed him.
She reported that the report content had not changed but the format corresponded to the NC procedures.
The additional statements and supporting material would be incorporated into the report to be sent to the Board.
She walked through a summary of the final report and the recommendations that people actually voted on.

Discussion: Harold Feld asked if the summary of general comments appear in the report. It was confirmed that they were in III 3.

Philip Sheppard proposed voting on the report as a whole.

Further discussions after the recommmendation summary questioned the procedural process and Roger Cochetti said that the Task Force should not bind or restrict the Names Council. He went on to suggest that the elements should be voted on rather than the whole.
Bruce Tonkin askedwhich of the several WLS versions were referred to in the report. Marilyn Cade suggested that Chuck Gomes would be asked to approve the version.
To a question from Ellen Shankman as to what would happen if the Board would go ahead after a no vote from the Task Force, Louis Touton explained he believed that putting forward the views of the various parts of the community was more important than attempting to characterize those views in terms of whether they constituted consensus.
Voting in the Task Force itself was discussed and it was felt that questioning the Task Force composition at this stage was inappropiate. However the eligibility of constituencies to vote or participate in the case where they were not directly affected was questioned and Louis Touton said that the exclusion of constituency representatives from voting in the NC would present concerns under the by-laws. Constituency votes can be taken conditionally and reported to the Board.

Ken Stubbs expressed concern about the section on cost, particularly the specific participation of the ccTLDs in this vote and proposed a friendly amendment to remove that recommendation. Grant Forsyth said that price is a key issue and is properly considered and reported.
Louis Touton Louis Touton said that a principle for establishing price caps was being put forward in the current version of report which gained support, but that no position on the specific price was being stated.

He went on to say that in terms of utility to the Board it would be useful to know if the Names Council feels the report does not appropiately and accurately reflect the views of the constituencies as this would be an important consideration from the Board.

Philip Sheppard moved for a vote of adoption for the report as a whole.

15 voted in favour, 3 voted against (gTLD constituency) 1 abstention and Greg Ruth was absent, no proxy given.

The motion carried.
Decision 3: Report adopted

Roger Cochetti stated after the vote that it should be noted that the gTLD constituency feels that the Task Force and Names Council have gone way beyond their proper role in policy matters.

Item 5: Status of 2002 fees

The ISPCP constituency reporteded that they were in the process of collecting members' fees, and, due to the holidays, expected to be able to provide a payment date by the end of August.
The non-commercials had received the appropiate invoices and were distributing them.
The gTLD constituency said that they had the intent to pay but could not give a date.

Item 4: ICANN Reform and proposed Resolution.
This was deferred to the next meeting

The teleconference ended at 16:30

Next NC teleconference will be on Thursday August 1 at 15:00 Paris time, 13:00 UTC/GMT

See all past agendas and minutes at http://www.dnso.org/dnso/2002calendardnso.html
and calendar of the NC meetings at http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/2002.NC-calendar.html

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