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RE: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match


Rob,

Good point, and I would agree.

Tim

 -------- Original Message --------
   Subject: RE: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match
   From: "Rob Hall" <rob@momentous.ca>
   Date: Wed, April 10, 2002 10:45 am
   To: "Registrars Mail List" <registrars@dnso.org>

   I think there are cases where you would both want the 60 days and some
   cases where you would not want it.

   Rather than a standard across registrars, I would prefer to have some
   flexibility here.

   I agree with Tim that in most cases of a change of ownership it is
   agreeable to keep it for a period of time.

   However, there are cases where the transfer of ownership was due to a
   dispute, such as a UDRP result.  In cases like these, we would not
   want to have to lock the customer down for the 60 days.

   So my preference would be to not create a mandatory standard, but to
   leave it to the registrars discretion as to whether to implement one
   and in what cases.

   Rob.

   -----Original Message-----
   From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
   Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
   Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:32 AM
   To: registrars@dnso.org
   Subject: Re: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match


   Patrick,

   Actually, I think the 60 day hold on transfers when a domain changes
   ownership is a good idea. We are considering that ourselves.
   Especially since our experience has been that not all registrars are
   as cooperative as we try to be when something goes wrong. If the
   domain is still with us when am issue arises over a change of
   ownership, we will be in a much better position to correct any errors.

   Tim

    -------- Original Message --------
      Subject: Re: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match
      From: Patrick <dnso-reg@gandi.net>
      Date: Wed, April 10, 2002 7:27 am
      To: "Registrars@Dnso. Org" <registrars@dnso.org>

      On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:38:36PM +0530, Bhavin Turakhia took time
      to write:
      > can anyone tell me when would something like this happen -
      >
      >    DOMAIN: kinminks.com
      >    Record last updated on 25-Mar-2002.
      >    Record expires on 04-Sep-2002.
      >    Record created on 25-Mar-2002.
      >
      > note that the record is created on 25-Mar-2002, but expires on
      > 4th-Sep-2002 - which is less than a year
      >
      > Additoinal info:
      >
      > * the domain is currently regstered with netsol
      >
      > * the domain was earlier with namezero

      AFAIK this means the owner name was changed.

      Netsol changes the creation date with an ownership change, and then
      refuses to transfer domain names (rule of 60 days). I already asked
      ICANN about this, and they seem to be OK with that.

      But we had many customers with Namezero : they asked for a
      change of ownership (to be able later on to do the transfer),
      which was done late by Namezero/Netsol, thus the domain was near
      expired, and unable to be transfered to us.

      Patrick Mevzek.
      Gandi.





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