Re: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match

["Nezih Erkman" <nezih@erkman.com>]

I would like to see 60 days lock on registrar transfer. This would stop
"registrar hoping" technique used by CC thieves.

Nezih Jack Erkman
R & K GBS, Inc.
000Domains.com
Cell: 501-779-1934
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hall" <rob@momentous.ca>
To: "Registrars Mail List" <registrars@dnso.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 12:45 PM
Subject: RE: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match


> I think there are cases where you would both want the 60 days and some
cases
> where you would not want it.
>
> Rather than a standard across registrars, I would prefer to have some
> flexibility here.
>
> I agree with Tim that in most cases of a change of ownership it is
agreeable
> to keep it for a period of time.
>
> However, there are cases where the transfer of ownership was due to a
> dispute, such as a UDRP result.  In cases like these, we would not want to
> have to lock the customer down for the 60 days.
>
> So my preference would be to not create a mandatory standard, but to leave
> it to the registrars discretion as to whether to implement one and in what
> cases.
>
> Rob.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 11:32 AM
> To: registrars@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match
>
>
> Patrick,
>
> Actually, I think the 60 day hold on transfers when a domain changes
> ownership is a good idea. We are considering that ourselves. Especially
> since our experience has been that not all registrars are as cooperative
as
> we try to be when something goes wrong. If the domain is still with us
when
> am issue arises over a change of ownership, we will be in a much better
> position to correct any errors.
>
> Tim
>
>  -------- Original Message --------
>    Subject: Re: [registrars] expiry date and creation date dont match
>    From: Patrick <dnso-reg@gandi.net>
>    Date: Wed, April 10, 2002 7:27 am
>    To: "Registrars@Dnso. Org" <registrars@dnso.org>
>
>    On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 09:38:36PM +0530, Bhavin Turakhia took time to
>    write:
>    > can anyone tell me when would something like this happen -
>    >
>    >    DOMAIN: kinminks.com
>    >    Record last updated on 25-Mar-2002.
>    >    Record expires on 04-Sep-2002.
>    >    Record created on 25-Mar-2002.
>    >
>    > note that the record is created on 25-Mar-2002, but expires on
>    > 4th-Sep-2002 - which is less than a year
>    >
>    > Additoinal info:
>    >
>    > * the domain is currently regstered with netsol
>    >
>    > * the domain was earlier with namezero
>
>    AFAIK this means the owner name was changed.
>
>    Netsol changes the creation date with an ownership change, and then
>    refuses to transfer domain names (rule of 60 days). I already asked
>    ICANN about this, and they seem to be OK with that.
>
>    But we had many customers with Namezero : they asked for a
>    change of ownership (to be able later on to do the transfer),
>    which was done late by Namezero/Netsol, thus the domain was near
>    expired, and unable to be transfered to us.
>
>    Patrick Mevzek.
>    Gandi.
>
>
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