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Re: [registrars] XFER Update


For what it's worth Bruce, I only ran the numbers as a convenience to anyone
that was interested (that's what I meant when I said *informal*). You are
free to do the same. Procedural objections should be forwarded to our Chair.

You raise an interesting point regarding consensus. If you are correct (and
why should we argue with Websters), then we might want to re-examine the
process by which Verisign recently extended their operating contract for
CNO. That was also a consensus based process which, if I remember correctly,
most certainly wasn't unanimous and didn't include a poll of registrants
either.

-rwr

----- Original Message -----
From: "Beckwith, Bruce" <bbeckwith@verisign.com>
To: "'Ross Wm. Rader'" <ross@tucows.com>
Cc: <registrars@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2001 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: [registrars] XFER Update


> Ross,
>
> Would it be accurate to state that voter turnout is actually 33.6% of
polled
> registrars (119 total on the list below divided by the 40 who voted)?
>
> Why are there only 119 registrars listed below, when ICANN shows that
there
> are 157 which are accredited
> (http://www.icann.org/registrars/accredited-list.html)?
>
> With 157 accredited registrars, isn't the voter turnout then really 25.5%?
>
> Would it also be accurate to note that since Mike is getting an updated
list
> of Registrar Constituency member registrars (presumably those who have
paid
> their dues), that we don't have accurate statistics for the votes within
the
> constituency?
>
> Lastly, how relevant is it to consider market share when analyzing the
> votes?
>
> It may be of interest that Webster's dictionary
> (http://www.m-w.com/dictionary.htm) defines the word "consensus" to be: 1
a
> : general agreement : UNANIMITY, and b : the judgment arrived at by most
of
> those concerned; 2 : group solidarity in sentiment and belief.  With
either
> the 33.6% or 25.5% voter turnout numbers, it can be concluded that
consensus
> has not been reached.
>
> The missing aspect of the vote noted below is that registrants, our
> [registrar] customers, have not been polled.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bruce
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Ross Wm. Rader [mailto:ross@tucows.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 6:37 PM
> To: Ross Wm. Rader; Michael D. Palage; registrars@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [registrars] XFER Update
>
> Whoops...caught an error...
>
> This is a little closer ;)
>
> 119 Total Eligible Registrars
> 40 Votes Cast
> 1 Abstention
> 4 Disapproved
> 35 Approved
>
> Which on further examination means that out of 42 Constituency Members,
> 83.3% Approve, 9.52% Disapprove and 2.38% abstain. Out of the 39 member
> companies, 89% approve (keeping in mind that member corporations can cast
> one vote for each accreditation) and 2.5% disapprove and 2.5% abstained.
>
> Voter turnout was 95.2%
>
> Please keep in mind that these are not in any way official, but are based
on
> the preliminary numbers that Mike forwarded earlier - YMMV...
>
> Thanks to all that voted.
>
> -rwr
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>
> To: "Michael D. Palage" <michael@palage.com>; <registrars@dnso.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [registrars] XFER Update
>
>
> > Here's a more readable cut of the numbers...Mike has the official data,
> but
> > this might provide you with more insight as to the voting trends...;)
> >
> > 120 total
> > 40 Voted
> > 4 Disapproved
> > 36 Approved
> >
> >
> > VOTED    Register.com, Inc.    ABSTAIN
> > VOTED    007Names, Inc.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    1stDomain.Net, a division of G+D International LLC    APPROVE
> > VOTED    A Technology Company, Inc. dba namesystem.com    APPROVE
> > VOTED    AAAQ.COM, Inc.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Active ISP ASA    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Alice's Registry, Inc.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Catalog.com    APPROVE
> > VOTED    CORE Internet Council of Registrars    APPROVE
> > VOTED    CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH d/b/a joker.com    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Direct Information Pvt Ltd d/b/a Directi.com    APPROVE
> > VOTED    DomainPeople, Inc.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    DomainRegistry.com Inc.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    eMarkmonitor Inc. dba Markmonitor    APPROVE
> > VOTED    eNom, Inc.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Global Media Online Inc. d/b/a Discount-Domain.com and
Onamae.com
> > APPROVE
> > VOTED    Globedom Datenkommunikations GmbH,  d/b/a Globedom    APPROVE
> > VOTED    InnerWise,Inc. d/b/a ItsYourDomain.com    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Interaccess    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Intercosmos Media Group, Inc.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Internetters Limited    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Melbourne IT Ltd trading as Internet Names Worldwide    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Namebay    APPROVE
> > VOTED    NameEngine, Inc.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Nominalia Internet S.L.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Nordnet    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Parava Networks, Inc. d/b/a RegistrateYa.com and nAAme.com
> > APPROVE
> > VOTED    PSI Japan    APPROVE
> > VOTED    PSI-USA, Inc.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Schlund+Partner AG    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Speednames, Inc.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Stargate Communications, Inc.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    The Registry at Info Avenue d/b/a IA Registry    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Total Web Solutions Limited trading as TotalRegistrations
> > APPROVE
> > VOTED    Tucows Inc.    APPROVE
> > VOTED    Virtual Internet Plc.     APPROVE
> > VOTED    BB Online UK Limited    DISAPPROVE
> > VOTED    Internet Domain Registrars d/b/a Registrars.com    DISAPPROVE
> > VOTED    Namesecure.com, Inc.    DISAPPROVE
> > VOTED    Network Solutions, Inc. Registrar    DISAPPROVE
> > #1 Domain Names International, Inc. dba 1dni.com
> > 1 eNameCo
> > 123 Easy Domain Names, Inc. dba Signature Domains
> > 123 Registration.com Inc.
> > 2Day Internet Limited dba 2day.com
> > 7DC, Inc.
> > Abacus America, Inc. d/b/a Names4ever
> > Abu-Ghazaleh Intellectual Property (AGIP)
> > Address Creation
> > All West Communications, Inc. DBA AWRegistry
> > Alldomains.com
> > American Domain Name Registry
> > Blueberry Hill Communications, Inc. d/b/a 4Domains.com
> > BookMyName SAS (formerly Worldnet)
> > British Telecommunications (BT plc)
> > BulkRegister.com
> > CASDNS, Inc.
> > Centergate Research Group, LLC
> > Central Registrar dba Domainmonger.com
> > Computer Data Networks dba Shop4domain.com and Netonedomains.com
> > Corporate Domains, Inc.
> > Cronon AG Berlin, Niederlassung
> > Cydian Technologies
> > Deutsche Telekom AG
> > DevelopersNetwork.com., Inc. dba DomainInvestigator.com (Canada)
> > Dodora Unified Communications, Inc.
> > Domain Bank, Inc.
> > Domain Registration Services, Inc. dba dotEarth.com
> > Domaininfo AB, aka domaininfo.com
> > Domain-It!, Inc. dba Domain-It!
> > DomainPro, Inc.
> > DomainProcessor.com, a division of Funpeas Media Ventures, LLC
> > DomainZoo.com, Inc.
> > Dotster, Inc.
> > Easyspace Limited
> > Echo, Inc.
> > EPAG Enter-Price Multimedia AG
> > Equitron Inc. d/b/a DomainNameRegistration.com
> > France Telecom Transpac
> > Gabia, Inc.
> > Gal Communication  (CommuniGal) Ltd.
> > Gandi SARL
> > Go Daddy Software, Inc.
> > HANGANG Systems, Inc. dba Doregi.com
> > HiChina Web Solutions Limited
> > I.D.R Internet Domain Registry LTD.
> > iHoldings.com, Inc. d/b/a DotRegistrar.com
> > Interdomain S.A.
> > Internetplaza City Co.,Ltd
> > Key-Systems GmbH d/b/a domaindiscount24.com
> > Marksonline, Inc.
> > Mr. DomReg.com Inc.
> > NameScout Corp.
> > Namesdirect.com, Inc.
> > NameTree, Inc.
> > Namezero.com, Inc.
> > Neomode Co., Ltd.
> > NetBenefit plc aka NetNames
> > Netpia.com, Inc.
> > Omnis Network, LLC
> > OnlineNIC, Inc.(United States)
> > pair Networks, Inc.d/b/a pairNIC
> > Philippine Registry.Com, Inc.
> > Polar Software Limited d/b/a signdomains.com
> >  Primus Telecommunications Pty Ltd trading as PlanetDomain and
> PrimusDomain
> > R & K Global Business Services d/b/a/ 000Domains.com
> > RegistrarsAsia Pty Ltd
> > Registration Technologies, Inc.
> > Research Institute for Computer Science, Inc.
> > Secura GmbH
> > SiteName Ltd.
> > The NameIT Corporation d/b/a AITdomains.com
> > TierraNet Inc. DBA DomainDiscover
> > TLDs Inc. d/b/a  SRSplus
> > Triara.com d/b/a Triara
> > Wooho T & C Ltd., d/b/a/ rgnames.com
> > Xin Net Corp.
> > Yellowiz Corp. d/b/a Yellowname.com
> > Yesnic Co., Ltd.
> >
> > 120 total
> > 40 Voted
> > 4 Disapproved
> > 36 Approved
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael D. Palage" <michael@palage.com>
> > To: <registrars@dnso.org>
> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2001 5:10 PM
> > Subject: [registrars] XFER Update
> >
> >
> > > Listed below are votes that I have received. Based upon the results
> below,
> > I
> > > believe it is rather self evident that there is consensus for the
> current
> > > XFER document produced by the registrar constituency. If I missed any
> > > ballots or improperly documented your ballot please let me know. After
> > these
> > > votes are finalized, I will forward them to the Names Counsel task
force
> > > that has been created to address this issue. I have been in contact
over
> > the
> > > weekend with Marilyn Cade the Names Counsel representative designate
to
> > > chair the expedited task force. I will be posting an update to the
list
> > > shortly.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Michael D. Palage
> > >
> > >
> > > XFER VOTES
> > >
> > > VOTED Registrar Name XFER VOTE
> > > #1 Domain Names International, Inc. dba 1dni.com
> > > VOTED 007Names, Inc. APPROVE
> > > 1 eNameCo
> > > 123 Easy Domain Names, Inc. dba Signature Domains
> > > 123 Registration.com Inc.
> > > VOTED 1stDomain.Net, a division of G+D International LLC APPROVE
> > > 2Day Internet Limited dba 2day.com
> > > 7DC, Inc.
> > > VOTED A Technology Company, Inc. dba namesystem.com APPROVE
> > > VOTED AAAQ.COM, Inc. APPROVE
> > > Abacus America, Inc. d/b/a Names4ever
> > > Abu-Ghazaleh Intellectual Property (AGIP)
> > > VOTED Active ISP ASA APPROVE
> > > Address Creation
> > > VOTED Alice's Registry, Inc. APPROVE
> > > All West Communications, Inc. DBA AWRegistry
> > > Alldomains.com
> > > American Domain Name Registry
> > > VOTED BB Online UK Limited DISAPPROVE
> > > Blueberry Hill Communications, Inc. d/b/a 4Domains.com
> > > BookMyName SAS (formerly Worldnet)
> > > British Telecommunications (BT plc)
> > > BulkRegister.com
> > > CASDNS, Inc.
> > > VOTED Catalog.com APPROVE
> > > Centergate Research Group, LLC
> > > Central Registrar dba Domainmonger.com
> > > Computer Data Networks dba Shop4domain.com and Netonedomains.com
> > > VOTED CORE Internet Council of Registrars APPROVE
> > > Corporate Domains, Inc.
> > > Cronon AG Berlin, Niederlassung
> > > VOTED CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH d/b/a joker.com APPROVE
> > > Cydian Technologies
> > > Deutsche Telekom AG
> > > DevelopersNetwork.com., Inc. dba DomainInvestigator.com (Canada)
> > > VOTED Direct Information Pvt Ltd d/b/a Directi.com APPROVE
> > > Dodora Unified Communications, Inc.
> > > Domain Bank, Inc.
> > > Domain Registration Services, Inc. dba dotEarth.com
> > > Domaininfo AB, aka domaininfo.com
> > > Domain-It!, Inc. dba Domain-It!
> > > VOTED DomainPeople, Inc. APPROVE
> > > DomainPro, Inc.
> > > DomainProcessor.com, a division of Funpeas Media Ventures, LLC
> > > VOTED DomainRegistry.com Inc. APPROVE
> > > DomainZoo.com, Inc.
> > > Dotster, Inc.
> > > Easyspace Limited
> > > Echo, Inc.
> > > VOTED eMarkmonitor Inc. dba Markmonitor APPROVE
> > > VOTED eNom, Inc. APPROVE
> > > EPAG Enter-Price Multimedia AG
> > > Equitron Inc. d/b/a DomainNameRegistration.com
> > > France Telecom Transpac
> > > Gabia, Inc.
> > > Gal Communication  (CommuniGal) Ltd.
> > > Gandi SARL
> > > VOTED Global Media Online Inc. d/b/a Discount-Domain.com and
Onamae.com
> > > APPROVE
> > > VOTED Globedom Datenkommunikations GmbH,  d/b/a Globedom APPROVE
> > > Go Daddy Software, Inc.
> > > HANGANG Systems, Inc. dba Doregi.com
> > > HiChina Web Solutions Limited
> > > I.D.R Internet Domain Registry LTD.
> > > iHoldings.com, Inc. d/b/a DotRegistrar.com
> > > VOTED InnerWise,Inc. d/b/a ItsYourDomain.com APPROVE
> > > VOTED Interaccess APPROVE
> > > VOTED Intercosmos Media Group, Inc. APPROVE
> > > Interdomain S.A.
> > > VOTED Internet Domain Registrars d/b/a Registrars.com DISAPPROVE
> > > Internetplaza City Co.,Ltd
> > > VOTED Internetters Limited APPROVE
> > > Key-Systems GmbH d/b/a domaindiscount24.com
> > > Marksonline, Inc.
> > > VOTED Melbourne IT Ltd trading as Internet Names Worldwide APPROVE
> > > Mr. DomReg.com Inc.
> > > VOTED Namebay APPROVE
> > > VOTED NameEngine, Inc. APPROVE
> > > NameScout Corp.
> > > Namesdirect.com, Inc.
> > > VOTED Namesecure.com, Inc. DISAPPROVE
> > > NameTree, Inc.
> > > Namezero.com, Inc.
> > > Neomode Co., Ltd.
> > > NetBenefit plc aka NetNames
> > > Netpia.com, Inc.
> > > VOTED Network Solutions, Inc. Registrar DISAPPROVE
> > > VOTED Nominalia Internet S.L. APPROVE
> > > VOTED Nordnet APPROVE
> > > Omnis Network, LLC
> > > OnlineNIC, Inc.(United States)
> > > pair Networks, Inc.d/b/a pairNIC
> > > VOTED Parava Networks, Inc. d/b/a RegistrateYa.com and nAAme.com
APPROVE
> > > Philippine Registry.Com, Inc.
> > > Polar Software Limited d/b/a signdomains.com
> > >   Primus Telecommunications Pty Ltd trading as PlanetDomain and
> > PrimusDomain
> > > VOTED PSI Japan APPROVE
> > > VOTED PSI-USA, Inc. APPROVE
> > > R & K Global Business Services d/b/a/ 000Domains.com
> > > VOTED Register.com, Inc. ABSTAIN
> > > RegistrarsAsia Pty Ltd
> > > Registration Technologies, Inc.
> > > Research Institute for Computer Science, Inc.
> > > VOTED Schlund+Partner AG APPROVE
> > > Secura GmbH
> > > SiteName Ltd.
> > > VOTED Speednames, Inc. APPROVE
> > > VOTED Stargate Communications, Inc. APPROVE
> > > The NameIT Corporation d/b/a AITdomains.com
> > > VOTED The Registry at Info Avenue d/b/a IA Registry APPROVE
> > > TierraNet Inc. DBA DomainDiscover
> > > TLDs Inc. d/b/a  SRSplus
> > > VOTED Total Web Solutions Limited trading as TotalRegistrations
APPROVE
> > > Triara.com d/b/a Triara
> > > VOTED Tucows Inc. APPROVE
> > > VOTED Virtual Internet Plc. APPROVE
> > > Wooho T & C Ltd., d/b/a/ rgnames.com
> > > Xin Net Corp.
> > > Yellowiz Corp. d/b/a Yellowname.com
> > > Yesnic Co., Ltd.
> > >
> >



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