RE: [nc-transfer] FW: Canadian Transfers Model

["Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <mcade@att.com>]

I would note that there is very little commetn on the Registrar 
proposal. Comments on that would be a first priority.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Wm. Rader [mailto:ross@tucows.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 7:10 PM
To: James Love; Cade,Marilyn S - LGA; Transfer TF (E-mail)
Cc: Danny Younger (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [nc-transfer] FW: Canadian Transfers Model


Its rather impractical due to the operational requirements that it puts on
the registry - ie - they don't have the data to deal with the process.

More importantly, what is the opinion of the DNSO community on the rather
extensive proposal that the registrar community has put forth?

If a report from CIRA is necessary, please let me know (we are heavily
involved w/CIRA and would be more than happy to arrange for a briefing).

-rwr

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Love" <james.love@cptech.org>
To: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <mcade@att.com>; "Transfer TF (E-mail)"
<nc-transfer@dnso.org>
Cc: "Danny Younger (E-mail)" <DannyYounger@cs.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nc-transfer] FW: Canadian Transfers Model


> What is the opinon from the registrar commmnity on this?  Is there any
> independent analysis of this?   Has the CIRA any reports on how this was
> developed?
> Jamie
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <mcade@att.com>
> To: "Transfer TF (E-mail)" <nc-transfer@dnso.org>
> Cc: "Danny Younger (E-mail)" <DannyYounger@cs.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 6:38 PM
> Subject: [nc-transfer] FW: Canadian Transfers Model
>
>
> :
> : Posted with permission of sender. Thanks, Danny.
> :
> : Marilyn
> : -----Original Message-----
> : From: DannyYounger@cs.com [mailto:DannyYounger@cs.com]
> : Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:38 PM
> : To: Cade,Marilyn S - LGA
> : Cc: Elisabeth.Porteneuve@cetp.ipsl.fr; rjs@lojo.co.nz;
> : tony.ar.holmes@bt.com; mcf@uwm.edu; nick.wood@nom-iq.com;
> : grant.forsyth@clear.co.nz; ross@tucows.com; sgaon@registrypro.com;
> : crusso@verisign.com; synthesis@videotron.ca; dsafran@nixonpeabody.com;
> : james.love@cptech.org; faia@amauta.rcp.net.pe
> : Subject: Canadian Transfers Model
> :
> :
> : Your thoughts on the Canadian Transfers Model would be appreciated:
> :
> : 11. TRANSFER OF REGISTRATION
> : Although a domain name Registration is not the property of the
Registrant,
> : CIRA will recognize a
> : transfer of the Registration.  To transfer a domain name Registration to
> : another person, the
> : following procedure must be followed:
> :
> : 11.1    Canadian Presence Requirements.  Proposed transferees of a
> : Registration must meet
> : the Canadian Presence Requirements for Registrants set out in Section
2.1.
> :
> : 11.2    User Account and Password.  The Registrant of record for the
> : Registration to be
> : transferred (the "Transferor Registrant") must contact the proposed
> : transferee of the
> : Registration (the "Transferee Applicant") and obtain the CIRA User
Account
> of
> : the
> : Transferee Applicant to initiate the process.  No transfer can be
> initiated
> : unless the
> : Transferee Applicant has a Registration or is a Registrant Without a
> Domain
> : Name in
> : accordance with Sections 2.12 to 2.15.  In other words, the Transferee
> : Applicant must
> : have already agreed to be bound by the Registrant Agreement and all the
> Rules
> : and
> : Procedures as set out in these rules and procedures in order to apply to
> have
> : a
> : Registration transferred to it.  Provided that the Transferee Applicant
> has a
> : Registration
> : or is a Registrant Without a Domain Name in accordance with Sections
2.12
> to
> : 2.15, the
> : procedure set out in Sections 11.3 through 11.9 must be followed.
> :
> : 11.3    Transfer Request.  The Transferor Registrant must cause its
> Registrar
> : of record to
> : submit a Registrant Transfer of Registration Request ("Transfer
Request")
> to
> : CIRA
> : indicating the Transferee Applicant's CIRA User Account.  This Transfer
> : Request will
> : then be validated and processed in accordance with Section 5.
> :
> : 11.4    Confirmation by the Transferor Registrant.  If the Transfer
> Request
> : is so validated
> : and processed, CIRA will send an email to the Transferor Registrant
> : containing the
> : address of a secure web page.  The Transferor Registrant will be
required
> to
> : go, within
> : 168 hours (7 days) from the time and date of CIRA's email, to the web
page
> : identified in
> : the email from CIRA, use its User Account to identify itself, confirm
its
> : identity by using
> : its Private Password and confirm the Transfer Request.  If the
Transferor
> : Registrant
> : confirms the Transfer Request, CIRA will mark the Registration in CIRA's
> : WHOIS
> : database available to the public as subject to a pending transfer.  The
> : Transferor
> : Registrar, the Transferor Registrant, the Transferee Applicant and the
> : Transferee
> : Registrar will be advised by CIRA once this has taken place.  If the
> : Transferor Registrant
> : does not comply with this confirmation procedure within such 168 hour (7
> day)
> : period,
> : the Transfer Request will be rejected and cancelled, and CIRA will give
> : notice of the
> : cancellation to the Transferor Registrant, the Transferor Registrar, the
> : Transferee
> : Applicant and the Transferee Registrar.
> :
> : 11.5    Transferee Applicant Transfer Request.  Once the Transferor
> : Registrant has confirmed
> : the Transfer Request, the Transferee Applicant must cause the Transferee
> : Registrar to
> : submit the Transferee Applicant Transfer Request to CIRA. This Request
> will
> : be
> : processed and validated in accordance with Section 5.
> :
> : 11.6    Confirmation by Transferee Applicant.  If the Transferee
Applicant
> : Transfer Request
> : is so validated and processed, CIRA will send an email to the Transferee
> : Applicant
> : containing the address of a secure web page.  The Transferee Applicant
> will
> : be required
> : to go, within 168 hours (7 days) from the time and date of CIRA's email
to
> : the web page
> : identified in the email from CIRA, use its User Account to identify
itself
> : and confirm its
> : identity by using its Private Password.  The Transferee Applicant will
> then
> : be required to
> : confirm that the information provided by the Transferee Registrar in the
> : Transferee
> : Applicant Transfer Request is correct.
> :
> : 11.7    Modification of Information. If the information provided by the
> : Applicant's Registrar
> : in the Transferee Applicant Transfer Request is not correct, the
> Transferee
> : Applicant
> : should select the CONFIRM LATER option on this web page, contact its
> : Registrar and
> : make any modifications to the information through its Registrar within
the
> : 168 hour (7
> : day) period from the time and date of CIRA's email referred to in
Section
> : 11.6.  Once the
> : modifications have been made, the Transferee Applicant must complete the
> : confirmation
> : procedure set out in Section 11.6 within the time period set out in
> Section
> : 11.6 or the
> : Transferee Applicant Transfer Request will be rejected and cancelled.
> :
> : 11.8    Cancellation of Request. If the Transferee Applicant does not
wish
> to
> : proceed any
> : further with the Transferee Applicant Transfer Request, the Transferee
> : Applicant should
> : select the CANCEL option on this web page.  The Transfer Request will be
> : rejected and
> : cancelled at the end of the 168 hour (7 day) period from the time and
date
> of
> : CIRA's
> : email referred to in Section 11.6 by CIRA with no further notice to the
> : Transferee
> : Applicant, the Transferee Registrar, the Transferor Registrar or the
> : Transferor Registrant.
> : No fee is payable by the Transferee Registrar in this event.
> :
> : 11.9    Transfer of Registration.  If the Transferee Applicant complies
> with
> : this confirmation
> : procedure within such 168 hour (7 day) period, CIRA will debit the
> Transferee
> : Registrar's balance in the CIRA Deposit Account for the Transfer of
> : Registration Fee in
> : accordance with the Fee Schedule (located at http://www.cira.ca/
> registrars/
> : documents.html) plus any applicable taxes.
> :     Unless the Transferee's Registrar's balance in the CIRA Deposit
> Account
> : is insufficient
> : to cover the Transfer of Registration Fee, CIRA will also:
> : (a) transfer or cause to be transferred the Registration from the
> Transferor
> : Registrant
> : to the Transferee Applicant and make the Transferee Registrar the
> Registrar
> : of
> : record for the Registration;
> : (b) advise the Transferee Applicant, the Transferor Registrant, the
> : Transferor
> : Registrar and the Transferee Registrar that the domain name Registration
> has
> : been transferred to the Transferee Applicant; and
> : (c) update or cause the Registration record for the domain name
> Registration
> : to be
> : updated to reflect the change in Registrant.
> : When a Registration is transferred in accordance with the procedure in
> : Section 11, the
> : remaining registration period is also transferred with the Registration
to
> : the Transferee
> : Applicant and there will be no refund by CIRA to the Transferor
Registrar
> for
> : such fees.
> :
> :
>
>