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[ga] RE: self-organization

Danny and all,

Since my name was mentioned:

I think it would have been better if the ccTLDs themselves had been
asked to select their own representatives in the ERC Assistance Group,
but they were not asked.

Instead ICANN selcted the participants. In this context

- I represent only myself.
- I am only giving advise to ERC.
- The ERC may choose to listen to the advises or not.
- If they decide not to listen to the Assisteance Group, they have to
  visible to everyone why.
- Since I and the other participants represent only ourselves in our 
  personal capacity (not the views of the ccTTLDs or other groups), 
  I do not see that this exercise is particulary useful. To pick a 
  few number of individuals to give serious advises influencing a large 
  numer of groups in the Internet, shows in my view very well that this
  not a bottom up process. 

  But since I believe in communication rather than boycott, I have
  to participate.
- In any case I and the other participants will not dictate anything. 
  We will give the ERC some advices. The ERC make the choises.

Best regards,
Alf H

> -----Original Message-----
> From: DannyYounger@cs.com [mailto:DannyYounger@cs.com] 
> Sent: 17. september 2002 23:37
> To: ga@dnso.org
> Cc: alf.hansen@uninett.no; philip.sheppard@aim.be
> Subject: self-organization
> Does ICANN have any principles left?  
> It used to believe in the principle of self-organization, but 
> now it chooses 
> to dictate to ccTLD managers exactly how they should 
> construct their own 
> Supporting Organization.  We have a Board Committee 
> soliciting advice from 
> others not even in the proposed SO on how to best impose a 
> top-down solution 
> upon a community that has already demonstrated its resolve 
> and capability to 
> self-organize.
> The other day Alf Hansen wrote:  "As a ccTLD manager for .no 
> I would not 
> accept if the DNSO started to dictate how my relations to the 
> Norwegian 
> Government should be and how our internal formation of local 
> policy was 
> organized."  One has to wonder if Alf, now a member of the 
> ccNSO assistance 
> group, is comfortable with ICANN's meddling in the internal 
> affairs of the 
> ccTLDs.  One also has to wonder why others such as Phil 
> Sheppard, the former 
> Chair of the DNSO Council, would willingly agree to stick his 
> nose into the 
> business of another SO, instead of respecting the right of 
> the ccTLD Adcom to 
> pursue its own legitimate plans without interference.

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