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Re: [ga] 2002 3:219 .INFO...."root servers for .biz"....??...do you mean .BIZ TLD servers ?
Simon,
When discusssions about the expansion of the TLD name space were started in earnest
in 1995, people recognized the need to have a place for people to test. Some people are
concerned that a TLD will start and fail. The "toy" 32-bit IPv4 Internet is a perfect place to
test new TLDs, before they mature and are supported by 128-bit DNS services. All the
128-bit DNS providers will care about is the list of [SLD].[TLD] owners who make it
past the Proof-of-Concept test phase. How many are there in .BIZ ? (80,000?). How
about .INFO ? (50,000?). Have you seen many .BIZ or .INFO names in use yet ? Do
the economics warrant investments in .BIZ or .INFO when .COM and other TLDs
have to be completed ?
What are your favorite TLDs besides .PRO ?
3:146 PRO
Who owns IN-ADDR.PRO ?
2002 0:201 .COM
http://www.thepricedomain.com/index.php?domainlist=com
2002 1:158 .CLUB
2002 2:143 .FAMILY
http://www.New.Net
2002 3:219 .INFO
http://www.Name-Space.com
http://www.thepricedomain.com/index.php?domainlist=info
2002 4:58 .LLC
2002 5:194 .INC
http://www.New.Net
2002 6:171 .TV
http://www.TV
2002 7:186 GOD
http://www.dot-god.com
http://www.dot.god
Jim Fleming
2002:[IPv4]:000X:03DB:...IPv8 is closer than you think...
http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv4-address-space
http://www.ntia.doc.gov/ntiahome/domainname/130dftmail/unir.txt
0:203 ONLINE
----- Original Message -----
From: <steinle@smartvia.de>
To: "Jim Fleming" <JimFleming@Ameritech.Net>; "Ga" <ga@dnso.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] 2002 3:219 .INFO...."root servers for .biz"....??...do you mean .BIZ TLD servers ?
> Jim,
> your concept is only possible in the .pro name space.
> There are different registrants e.g. for business.info from Afilias and
> business.info from Name-Space. Same thing with .biz, .museum and .name.
> Only in the .pro name space one could make sure that that e.g. smith.law.pro
> is registered to the same person/company in BOTH REGISTRIES!
>
> RegistryPro.com (REGISTRY 2)indroduces following SLD.TLD-strings:
> law.pro
> med.pro
> cpa.pro
>
> I have registered (reserved) these SLD.TLD-strings with REGISTRY 1 (Name
> Space)
> https://secure.name-space.com/cgi-bin/whois.pl?whois=LAW.PRO
> https://secure.name-space.com/cgi-bin/whois.pl?whois=MED.PRO
> https://secure.name-space.com/cgi-bin/whois.pl?whois=CPA.PRO
>
> https://secure.name-space.com/cgi-bin/whois.pl?whois=NIC.PRO
> more information about my SLD.TLD-string registry on http://nic.pro.xs2.net
> (with "ICANN-DNS")
>
> For NetScan Result Summary (VueDig Results) scroll down to the bottom of
> this e-mail
>
>
> Simon Steinle
> Diplom-Betriebswirt (BA)
> electronic commerce
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Fleming" <JimFleming@ameritech.net>
> To: "Ga" <ga@dnso.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 10:45 PM
> Subject: [ga] 2002 3:219 .INFO...."root servers for .biz"....??...do you
> mean .BIZ TLD servers ?
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Allan Liska" <allan@allan.org>
> > > JF> "root servers for .biz"....??...do you mean .BIZ TLD servers ?
> > >
> > > JF> Are you familiar with the DNS and how it works ?
> > >
> > > Yes I am. Every TLD has a series of root nameservers. These root
> > > nameservers maintain the database of domains within that TLD. In
> > > addition, there are the root nameservers used by recursive nameservers
> > > to find information about various TLDs.
> > >
> > > The root nameservers for the .BIZ TLD supported by ICANN are:
> > >
> > > A.GTLD.biz. 315874 IN A 209.173.53.162
> > > B.GTLD.biz. 466355 IN A 209.173.57.162
> > > C.GTLD.biz. 460739 IN A 209.173.60.65
> > > D.GTLD.biz. 471986 IN A 213.86.51.129
> > > E.GTLD.biz. 476147 IN A 209.173.58.65
> > > F.GTLD.biz. 464256 IN A 209.173.58.66
> > >
> >
> > This appears to be one of the TLD Clusters set up on the "toy" 32-bit,
> IPv4, legacy Internet
> > as part of the Proof-of-Concept market trial development for the .BIZ TLD.
> Using the term
> > "root" can be confusing for people. Root servers may point at this TLD
> Cluster or they may
> > point at another TLD Cluster that provides a redundant "Mirror Registry"
> operation. That is
> > what .ORG will have shortly. .ORG will operate independent TLD Clusters in
> parallel. Many
> > of the TLDs do this for better reliability and to avoid having a
> single-point-of-corporate-failure.
> > http://vuesoft.net/zonexchange/rsc/AIRS.txt
> > "107 TLDs have multiple entries"
> >
> > .INFO is a good example. There is a Mirror Registry for the .INFO TLD[1].
> In the end, with all of
> > the TLDs, the goal is to develop a large base of [SLD].TLD owners. Each of
> them have 2 or more
> > SLD nameservers which they should register in both of the Mirror
> Registries. Since it is all part of
> > the Proof-of-Concept phase of the expansion of the name space, people can
> use the IPv4 *sandbox*
> > to experiment before moving to the 128-bit DNS and full commercial
> deployment. As an aside, one
> > can see in the above .BIZ TLD Cluster several clues about why it is a
> Proof-of-Concept deployment.
> > For one reason, using the same 209.173 subnet for multiple servers does
> not impress reliability experts.
> > Another reason is that using the TLD itself, to name all the TLD servers
> makes for a chicken and egg
> > reliability problem. It is better to have diversity in naming so that
> other TLD Clusters can help to make
> > sure that the .BIZ TLD Cluster can be found. The above arrangement ties
> those servers too tightly to
> > what are called "root servers" and which are no longer necessary in modern
> DNS deployments. People
> > can find the TLD Clusters and point directly at them. Other TLD Clusters
> can tell people where all the
> > other TLD Clusters are located. Once found, any member of a TLD Cluster
> can report all the members
> > of the TLD Cluster. With the Mirrored Registry arrangement, each TLD
> Cluster operates as a unit, and
> > should one TLD Cluster fail, the other can handle the queries. The 128-bit
> DNS TLD Cluster front-ends
> > the 32-bit legacy back-end servers to add even more reliability and
> features. Having various TLD Clusters
> > allows for the companies running them to more easily change without
> service being interrupted. As an
> > example, there have been various companies operating the .INFO TLD
> Clusters as can be seen below.
> > The [SLD].INFO owners have to make sure they are Registered in both of the
> Mirrored Registries.
> >
> > [1] 2002 3:219 .INFO
> > http://www.Name-Space.com
> > http://www.thepricedomain.com/index.php?domainlist=info
> >
> > IN-ADDR.INFO is registered in both of the .INFO Registries
> >
> http://www.analogx.com/cgi-bin/cgidig.exe?DNS=204.74.113.1&Query=in-addr.inf
> o&Type=255&submit=Lookup
> >
> http://www.analogx.com/cgi-bin/cgidig.exe?DNS=209.48.2.11&Query=in-addr.info
> &Type=255&submit=Lookup
> >
> > ========================================
>
>
>
> .pro - NS Resource Records.
> Click on any NS RR link below to do a ServerScan.
>
> ANIC : AlterNIC : 160.79.129.192
> VueDig Results : Answer = 2 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 0.
> pro. 2h36m47s IN NS b.iana-servers.net.
> pro. 2h36m47s IN NS a.iana-servers.net.
>
> BORN : Business Oriented Root Network : 213.70.103.18
> VueDig Results : Answer = 0 : Authority = 1 : Additional = 0.
> .pro not found.
>
> iDNS : i-DNS.net International : 208.184.174.7
> VueDig Results : Answer = 2 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 2.
> pro. 2D IN NS A.IANA-SERVERS.NET.
> pro. 2D IN NS B.IANA-SERVERS.NET.
>
> LRS : Legacy Root Servers : 198.41.0.4
> VueDig Results : Answer = 2 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 2.
> pro. 2D IN NS B.IANA-SERVERS.NET.
> pro. 2D IN NS A.IANA-SERVERS.NET.
>
> NSpace : Name.Space : 209.48.2.11
> VueDig Results : Answer = 10 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 10.
> pro. 1D IN NS MEDIAFILTER.ORG.
> pro. 1D IN NS NS12.AUTONO.NET.
> pro. 1D IN NS NS00.ROOT-ZONE.NET.
> pro. 1D IN NS ROOT8.AUTONO.NET.
> pro. 1D IN NS NS1.AUTONO.NET.
> pro. 1D IN NS NS11.AUTONO.NET.
> pro. 1D IN NS ROOT3.AUTONO.NET.
> pro. 1D IN NS NS7.AUTONO.NET.
> pro. 1D IN NS NS.AUTONO.NET.
> pro. 1D IN NS NS10.AUTONO.NET.
>
> Nnet : New.net Inc : 206.132.100.42
> VueDig Results : Answer = 2 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 2.
> pro. 1D IN NS A.IANA-SERVERS.NET.
> pro. 1D IN NS B.IANA-SERVERS.NET.
>
> ORSC : Open Root Server Confederation : 199.166.24.1
> VueDig Results : Answer = 10 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 10.
> pro. 2D IN NS MEDIAFILTER.ORG.
> pro. 2D IN NS ROOT3.AUTONO.NET.
> pro. 2D IN NS NS00.ROOT-ZONE.NET.
> pro. 2D IN NS ROOT8.AUTONO.NET.
> pro. 2D IN NS C.TLD-SERVERS.NET.
> pro. 2D IN NS NS10.AUTONO.NET.
> pro. 2D IN NS B.TLD-SERVERS.NET.
> pro. 2D IN NS NS12.AUTONO.NET.
> pro. 2D IN NS NS.AUTONO.NET.
> pro. 2D IN NS NS1.AUTONO.NET.
>
> ORSN : Open Root Server Network : 217.146.140.67
> VueDig Results : Answer = 0 : Authority = 2 : Additional = 2.
> pro. 2D IN NS B.IANA-SERVERS.NET.
> pro. 2D IN NS A.IANA-SERVERS.NET.
>
> TPR : The PacificRoot : 204.107.129.2
> VueDig Results : Answer = 9 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 9.
> pro. 2D IN NS root3.autono.net.
> pro. 2D IN NS ns00.root-zone.net.
> pro. 2D IN NS mila.ljudmila.org.
> pro. 2D IN NS ns.re-lab.lv.
> pro. 2D IN NS ns7.autono.net.
> pro. 2D IN NS root8.autono.net.
> pro. 2D IN NS ns.autono.net.
> pro. 2D IN NS ns1.autono.net.
> pro. 2D IN NS mediafilter.org.
>
>
>
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