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Re: [ga] Change from without and within


Well Jeff you are starting to get the point.
Eric

Jeff Williams wrote:

> Eric and all assembly members,
>
>   Yes I saw it.  However one post on outcry by one assembly member,
> does not an outcry make.  Perhaps you should be a little more
> proactive and register outcry.org and do something with it?  Or perhaps
> you can go to NYC and the Hackers conference on July 12-14
> and make a REAL "Outcry" presentation.  See:
> http://store.yahoo.com/2600hacker/h2k2hope2002.html
> or http://h2k2.net/panels.html
> I see that several of our [INEGroups] more noted members are listed...
>
> eric@hi-tek.com wrote:
>
> > perhaps you missed my post for outcry?
> > Eric
> >
> > Jeff Williams wrote:
> >
> > > Eric and all assembly members,
> > >
> > >   Actually, to answer your question, yes, plain enough, but not quite
> > > complete enough.
> > >
> > >   If the ICANN BoD has voted to adopt the "Blueprint", or
> > > as our members characterize it as the "Black-and-Blueprint"
> > > than DOC/NTIA, not DOC BTW, will as in the past thus far
> > > also adopt this "Black-and-Blueprint" unless there is such
> > > an uprising from members here and from many other groups,
> > > constituencies of the DNSO, the ASO/PSO members,
> > > the NIC's, ISP's, ccTLD's independently and on mass,
> > > and frankly many many stakeholders/users/domain name
> > > holders, there will be no reverse from WITHIN ICANN
> > > here...
> > >
> > >   Given this than, change will have to come strictly from
> > > without...  So, DNSO GA members is loosing one more
> > > important battle baring a miracle, but the war rages on...
> > >
> > > eric@hi-tek.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have certainly read them and want to make very clear that that is not an
> > > > internal document nor has it the legal authority to adjust contracts.  We
> > > > should stand pat on our hand and require a modification agreement from the DoC
> > > > before changing our activities.  Anyone who follows it without the agreement
> > > > of the USG is in serious violation of a supply contract with the USG.  So if
> > > > TR goes about changing things before this is agreed to he will be answerable
> > > > under ISOs to the DoC.  Plain enough?
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > > > Jeff Williams wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Eric and all assembly members,
> > > > >
> > > > >   Obviously you have not read the "Blueprint" from the ICANN
> > > > > Staff which the ICANN BoD approved in Bucharest just yesterday.
> > > > > "Uncivilized" is seemingly in vogue with ICANN these days...
> > > > >
> > > > > eric@hi-tek.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I would suggest that until our charter is changed or pursuant to our own
> > > > > > rules we change the procedure that no one take unilateral action to
> > > > > > change anything within the GA.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whatever effect it has on the outside will be determined in the proper
> > > > > > fashion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anything else would be uncivilized.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > > >
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> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > --
> > > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 124k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > > > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
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> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 124k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > > CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> > > Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
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>
> Regards,
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 124k members/stakeholders strong!)
> CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng.
> Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC.
> E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com
> Contact Number:  972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827
> Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208
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