Re: [ga] Registrar Constituency WLS Response to Verisign - A DNSOGA Ballot please...

[Abel Wisman <abel@able-towers.com>]

It must be getting late in your side of the world, otherwise you would
no doubt make more sense, nonetheless:

WLS : GA POV is related and posted, no objections, loads of support,
including yours, see www.it-ken.net nd i do miss your group's comments
not the Verisign page, not that such means much, the registrars
Constituency is not added either, but still.

.Org : THAT is the one we were talking about, you said we needed to
something about that, (WLS being over and done with for now) and i said
that i agreed, seeing as Don and I did most of the work on the WLS, I
thought it would honour you to do the draft on the org divestiture.

I will gladly post it along side the WLS reaction

abel




On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 02:20, Jeff Williams wrote:
> Abel and all assembly members,
> 
> Abel Wisman wrote:
> 
> > I agree wholeheartedly Jeff, so i assume you are writing a proposal for
> > the GA to comment upon ?
> 
>   Our position's form our members have been posted to the
> related E-Mail addresses for the WLS and .ORG divestiture.
> So I guess first I must ask you here openly Abel, which
> one are you referring to, the .ORG divestiture or the WLS
> proposal?  Second question I must ask to understand
> the meaning of your question is, which proposal for
> WLS are you referring to, yours, or Verisigns?
> 
> >
> >
> > abel
> >
> > On Sun, 2002-03-17 at 02:03, Jeff Williams wrote:
> > > Geroge and all assembly members,
> > >
> > > George Kirikos wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > --- Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > >   It would seem to me that the DNSO GA should also have held
> > > > > a vote on the WLS and the .ORG delegation statement.  I had requested
> > > > > these two things before, and received not reply from either Thomas,
> > > > > or Alexander.  I think Alex had mentioned that the DNSO GA
> > > > > would be submitting a ballot on the WLS issue.  Alex?   If not,
> > > > > than again I would like to request again such a ballot be
> > > > > initiated.
> > > >
> > > > There were already multiple opportunities for folks to show their
> > > > approval or disapproval of WLS (I don't follow the .org issue much).
> > > > Each time, overwhelmingly the GA was against it. I'm not sure what
> > > > another vote would prove.
> > >
> > >   Well George it would PROVE that first the DNSO GA members
> > > can show their interest and position in a official way to the WLS and
> > > .ORG divestiture proposal.  Second, without an official vote on these
> > > matters, the ICANN BoD can claim that the DNSO GA is a nearly
> > > useless part of the DNSO which they are already trying to do now,
> > > and anyone can latter claim that the DNSO GA members had no
> > > official position on the WLS or the .ORG divestiture issues...
> > >
> > > > It might be a step in the reverse direction,
> > > > too, in that a "200-20" vote is just numerical, whereas having folks
> > > > provide their name along with their position, as has happened in the
> > > > mailing list, is more forceful. Anonymous voting in the age of the
> > > > internet would be very difficult (one side could easily sign up a few
> > > > hundred or thousand "supporters" to manipulate a vote where the voters
> > > > are anonymous). The way the RC did it, with registrars voting in
> > > > public, is best, as it's less open to manipulation (similar to how
> > > > voice votes were held in ancient Greece).
> > > >
> > > > WLS was mentioned on Slashdot, too, where it was derided.
> > > >
> > > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/01/14/0649205&mode=thread
> > > >
> > > > It's unclear that Verisign respects democratic institutions, in any
> > > > event. At some point (maybe we're well past that already), we might
> > > > need a "Magna Carta" to limit the power of this monarchy.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > >
> > > > George Kirikos
> > > > http://www.kirikos.com/
> > > >
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> > > Regards,
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
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