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Re: [ga] [fwd] Steering Group for icannatlarge.com. (from: roessler@does-not-exist.org)


Thomas and all assembly members,

  Ok so now we know this is a Joop - Pinder show.  Ok at least
that is out in the open NOW.  As such than any steering committee
is not such thing, stop-gap or not, as a voting mechanism is already
available to elect such a steering committee.  Now the question is,
when will the candidates be able to make themselves known
and when will the VOTE for steering committee member take place?
I would say that NOW is the time to have those interested in
serving on the steering committee identify themselves.  And in
two days hold that election for those steering committee members...

  Currently the "Appointed" and illegitimate steering committee members
are a near virtual "Map" of the ALSC.  That's hardly representative...

Thomas Roessler wrote:

> [Note: This is Thomas' stating his personal opinion, and not the
> chair of the GA speaking in that capacity.]
>
> On 2002-02-28 11:50:07 -0800, William S. Lovell wrote:
>
> >   So where did this Steering Group come from?
>
> I suggested it, and Joop accepted it, with minor modifications.  I
> then set up the mailing list and web archive.
>
> >   Especially since three of its "members" have evidently not even
> >   registered for membership in ICANN-AT-LARGE!  (Aizu, Hofmann,
> >   and Wong). Talk about a setup! There are grave political
> >   mistakes being made here already, which should have been thought
> >   through.
>
> Most of your criticism is (generally) well-taken, but, at this point
> of time, besides the point.
>
> Right now, a lot of "minor" "implementation" details on the site can
> quite well have an influence on what happens. Think about what the
> options are: Not doing anything is certainly _not_ an option.
> Following the (good!) process you describe in your posting requires
> a certain number of members to sign up, which means that some time
> will go by.
>
> Until then, you have very few choices, when it comes to
> implementation decisions which may turn out to be crucial (in
> particular when there is no clear input from the relevant community,
> yet): Either, the individual in charge of the implementation is
> going to make lonely decisions. Possibly after having received
> feed-back behind the scenes, from those he bothers to ask, possibly
> after having listened to some mailing lists or web forums.  But,
> ultimately, he's making decisions of his own, and he's the only one
> in charge of important details.
>
> Or, there is some group of (hopefully) respected individuals who
> give that feed-back in a publicly visible way, and a commitment of
> the implementor to follow the advice of that group.
>
> I very much prefer the second option over the first one, which is
> why I worked to implement it.  (I do, in particular, prefer that
> second option when we are talking about the single effort which
> seems to be getting most of the attention.  Because, in this case,
> the third option (namely, to let the effort fail) would cause
> considerable harm, and should not be choosen.)
>
>           This steering group is a quick stop-gap measure.
>
> (OK, maybe we should have called it something else, but I had to
> think about a quick name for that mailing list.  atlarge-cabal
> didn't sound right, either.)
>
> Please look at it that way, and please work to make it unnecessary
> by joining the membership, and helping it to gain momentum.  In
> particular, I'd like to ask you to put your comment about the
> "statements" policy (which, BTW, was the implementor's decision)
> into one of the forums.
>
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> Thomas Roessler                        http://log.does-not-exist.org/
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