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Re[2]: [ga] Verisign: ".com/net not a necessity" replying to anti-trust concerns of WLS

Can we keep the alt.root spam to a minimum please?

Tuesday, Tuesday, January 29, 2002, 2:53:16 PM, John Palmer wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Kirikos" <gkirikos@yahoo.com>
> To: <ga@dnso.org>; <cgomes@verisign.com>
> Cc: <discuss-list@opensrs.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:18 PM
> Subject: [ga] Verisign: ".com/net not a necessity" replying to anti-trust
> concerns of WLS
> [...]

> You know, the inclusive namespace is still out there. We haven't gone
> anywhere. When
> you guys are tired of "working within the process" (which is rigged since
> the ICANN
> board is basically VSGN, Neustar/Neulevel and Afilias) - You can come on
> board
> the inclusive bus right now.

> If you are an ISP - see http://www.open-rsc.org or http://www.pacroot.com to
> find
> out how to make ICANN irrelevant to your company and customers right now. If
> your ISP wont, you can do it yourself (and then get an ISP that respects
> your right
> to see all of the internet, not just websites whose operators are cowering
> in the corner
> afraid that VSGN/ICANN/USG will pull the plug on them using one of the
> myriad of
> increasingly burdensome contract provisions that are FORCED on people before
> they are allowed to get a .COM/NET/ORG).

> The Inclusive Namespace has none of that.

> No UDRP, in other words, no binding  mechansim that allows rich concerns to
> steal
> domains from poor people.

> No rigged Board that claims it is "a consensus based, open, community
> process"
> (gag)

> No USG "big stick" lending authority to the aforementioned corrupt and
> rotten
> situation.

> We've been here all along. Don't you understand? If enough people leave
> ICANN's root
> networks, they will be irrelevant.  Right now, 7-12% of the internet looks
> away from ICANN,
> and this number is growing.

> There are some pretty powerful figures lurking here. If everyone would only
> get up and move,
> we could hasten ICANN's demise (a GOOD thing) as a 900lb gorilla. Without
> your help it
> will take a bit longer, but it will happen.

>> As for dot-com and dot-net not being a necessity, that's true in the
>> sense that they're not like food, water or shelter. However, if
>> Verisign truly believed their own argument then the "one year test"
>> could be conducted with equal efficacy using the dot-TV or dot-CC TLDs,
>> and not dot-com/net. If it's true, I'm willing to trade Verisign
>> gs34jkhgds-jkhg.org for the NSI.com domain name. I believe someone
>> forgot to tell GreatDomains (a Verisign company) that other TLDs are
>> now pervasive:

> How about domains like mydom.USA, mydom.AMERICA, mydom.EARTH,
> mydom.WEB?? How about 8,000 - 9,000 TLDs to choose from??? They exist
> now, and most without any nasty UDRP, USG or WIPO.

> Thats what we have now in the Big World out there.

> There is a solution, its right under everyone's nose. When are you all going
> to
> get the picture that ICANN ignores all of you and keeps you busy bickering
> amongst each other on these lists. Name one thing, ONE SUBSTANTIAL THING
> that you have accomplished in the past 2 years (apart from running
> elections, polls
> suspending people for getting a bit too hot under the collar).

> They (ICANN) are playing you for fools. Either get up, leave and go make a
> real difference or else let progress pass you by. The game is rigged. You
> are
> ignored. Face it. Move on to progress or give up.

>> Sincerely,
>> George Kirikos
>> http://www.kirikos.com/

> John Palmer

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Best regards,
William X Walsh <william@wxsoft.info>

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