Re: [ga] Re: forum.icann.org for the ALSC Report?

[Mike Roberts <mmr@darwin.ptvy.ca.us>]

Leah -

If the goal is informed participation and reasoned debate, then the 
public forums that have been used by ICANN in the last two years are 
a colossal failure.  Every variety of ignorance, off thread, personal 
attack, blatant corporate self-interest, excessive posting, and other 
ways to corrupt an electronic forum are amply in evidence.  If anyone 
doubts it, there are many megabytes of sorry archives to demonstrate 
it on the website.

Rick is right, if we want to go down that road, there needs to be a 
fresh look at requirements.

More to the point, the record is bulging with input on At Large 
issues.  The study committee has already conducted extensive 
outreach.  Its report says, "As a result of the Committee's extensive 
outreach to the community over the past eight months, in meetings and 
online, and the consideration of over 1163 forum comments, input from 
16 outreach events worldwide, and a substantial number of studies and 
research papers..."  And that is in addition to thousands of 
comments, papers and studies accumulated by the Board since 1999.

We don't need more input, we need output. The GA's role is to advise 
the NC on policy development, and the NC's job is to advise the 
Board.  The Board has asked for best and final comments from the DNSO 
on the At Large report and recommendations within 45 days from Nov 
15.  It has also simplified the process somewhat by separating issues 
associated with restructuring of the SO's from the At Large process 
and has established a new restructuring committee to receive thoughts 
on that subject.

The NC has already delivered its preliminary comments on At Large to 
the Board in Marina del Rey.  It will shortly be considering how to 
amend and extend that advice.  The GA has the opportunity to 
contribute to that process and it ought to use it.

- Mike


At 21:12 -0500 11/30/01, L Gallegos wrote:
>Mr. Lynn:
>
>The mail list is not the same, nor is it as visible as the forum boards
>where people are used to submitting public comments.  In the past,
>mail lists were used for working groups and many are still unaware of it. 
>
>It is my opinion and the opinion of many others on the GA list and
>others to which I belong, that there should be at the very least a public
>forum board added at http://forum.icann.org with a wide outreach effort. 
>Anything less is a disservice to the entire community.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Leah Gallegos
>
>On 30 Nov 2001, at 16:27, M. Stuart Lynn wrote:
>
>>  Danny:
>>
>>  Thank you for your note. I am sure it is no surprise to you to learn
>>  that work is already underway to create a new mechanism for the
>>  Internet community to submit comments. In the meantime, those
>>  interested can continue to submit their comments to the ALSC Forum at
>  > http://www.atlargestudy.org/forum.shtml.
>>
>>  With regards
>>  Stuart
>>
>>  At 3:08 PM -0500 11/30/01, DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
>>  >Stuart,
>>  >
>>  >Now that the Board has requested public comments on the ALSC report, when
>>  >will ICANN create a Public Discussion Forum at http://forum.icann.org/  to
>>  >accomodate such comments?
>>  >
>>  >If such a Forum is not created that is readily apparent to the public and
>>  >properly publicized, how do you expect to receive the At-Large input that
>>  >you ostensibly seek?
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >Further resolved [01.126] that the Board invites comments on the ALSC
>>  >Final Report from the Internet community as a whole, including the DNSO
>>  >Names Council, the ASO Address Council and the PSO Protocol Council, and
>>  >requests that any such comments be submitted within 45 days from the date
>>  >of this Resolution;
>>  >
>>  >Best regards,
>>  >Danny Younger
>>
>>
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