Re: [ga] Re: "political advantage"
Democracy is fluid, not rigid. Even this attack did not obliterate the
Mayoral race, it simply postponed it a little while. It's obvious that you
are upset by the whole event and maybe the bombing brought up memories from
your three year tour in the military. If so, I feel badly for that.
on 9/17/01 6:03 PM, Mike Roberts at firstname.lastname@example.org wrote:
> Terrorists do vote;
>they infiltrate democratic institutions and
> processes while they are putting their attack together. The openness
> of free universities plays into their hands. Our German colleagues
> have been learning over the weekend about the Islamic fundamentalist
> sect that operated at the Technical University of Hamburg-Harburg and
> sent three of themselves as suicide hijackers to the U.S.
By my definition, terrorists are committed to violence, whereas Sin Fein,
which is the political arm of the IRA, is not a terrorist organization, even
though it represents one. As you may know, Sinn Fein members exercise their
will by vote, not by the gun, although Martin McGuiness, spokesman, is a
convicted terrorist who served his sentence, and has since worked tirelessly
for the peace process in Northern Ireland. When Sinn Fein was finally given
a seat at the government negotiating table, not all of the IRA renounced
violence, and those who continued to commit atrocities were renamed "the
Real IRA". The IRA is refusing to give up it's weapons.
Make of that what you will, but multiplied by all the terrorist cells
throughout the world, it's complex stuff and the fact is that yesterday's
terrorists can become tomorrow's new political party. Short of asking ALSO
applicants from the Hamburg-Harburg University to provide a clear statement
that they have renounced throwing bombs, and are not past members of
Bader-Meinhoff, one can be forgive the ICANN Board for thinking that the
only way for ICANN to keep the DNS out of the hands of terrorists is just to
exclude as many people as possible from the process, which is essentially
everybody in the world except for the Old Boy's Club we know and love. In
short, some may see the best form of internet counter-terrorism as keeping
the public out of the process altogether, simply because there's no way of
knowing which cell anyone has been in for the last 20 years. Certainly the
ALSC reduction in numbers of At Large Directors, and your own comments,
would fit with this theory.
Unfortunately, it's not that simple. As a long term policy, it is fatally
flawed, for as the Old Boys retire, there is no ICANN procedure to check for
subversive activity amongst the many applicants standing in their place. I
foresee the United Nations in ICANN's future and waving goodbye to any
visions of regional diversity in the process. Gone are the days when the
Iraqi Government could expect to be part of the GAC in some utopean
realization of global cyberspace cooperation, or an Afghan national could
stand for a position on the Board. It seems we must be protected from
ourselves, lest we fall into the trap of opening doors for those who would
harbor terrorists in the very heart of the Internet Control Tower.
Add to that the phantom terrorist "sleeper", in place already and operating
legitimately within the industry, primed to strike when the opportunity
presents itself, and we may have a problem that puts civil liberties on the
back burner. Not all terrorists have the appearance of Bin Laden, some wear
suits. Not all cartels deal in oil.
In this shadowy new world to which the US has just awoken, the Old Boy's
Club would be the most vulnerable to capture, not the bottom-up. In terms of
damage limitation in the new, terrorist-challenged ICANN world, the highest
risk is obviously with the power brokers at the top. That's where most
damage to can be inflicted by an individual with undesireable affiliations,
more so than any individual member of an ALSO. You have argued that ICANN
cannot afford to be open to terrorist capture of the DNS. It would seem
fairly essential therefore for all ICANN Staff and officers to be
fingerprinted by the FBI. It costs $90 per person, hardly a significant
However, it makes little sense to me to eliminate the ALSO for reasons of
any alleged increase risk of capture. By the logic that voting terrorists
would capture the DNS if the ALSO were now to go ahead, Sinn Fein's ranks
would have swelled as the Real IRA laid down their arms in favor of the
ballot box at the House of Commons. It didn't happen and the evidence can be
counted in the number of bodies in the morgue.
On a historical note, (while on the topic of cyberterrorism and civil
liberties), there was a time when the IRA was funded mainly by Irish
sympathisers in the USA. It was Americans that paid for terror campaigns
that indiscriminately bombed civilians on the English mainland, with far
greater casualties than the 5,620 people lost in the September 11th attack,
and many of these were young children, targets of choice of the time being
shopping malls of major cities on Saturday afternoons. It has to be said
that the US may well lose the moral high ground if it does not tread lightly
on the issue of funding terrorism.
I campaigned for the DNSO BoD seat on a platform of technical stability of
the internet and social stability of the internet community being
inextricably linked, and on the basis that in today's world, it is no longer
possible for ICANN to coordinate technical policy without giving equal or
greater weight to the impact of its decisions on society. I wish it were not
so, but the mission creep that is so reviled within ICANN circles, has
become an inevitability. And the inevitability of increased DNS oversight
and internet security you claim is forthcoming in the light of the WTC
attack, clearly makes the point very well. Any demand cannot have arisen
from any proven technical failure, for there was none, but will have arisen
from anticipation of future social instability, that if these warning signs
were to be ignored, could result in deliberate and catastrophic technical
failure of the internet. The requirement therefore is for a new technical
coordination policy that is not only capable of dealing with the eradication
of the terrorism, both real and in cyberspace, but also does not sacrifice
civil liberties and freedoms in the process.
What the internet industry really needs now is to defend democracy, to
defend the public interests of freedom and civil liberties that no group
within the ICANN structure specifically has the right to represent to the
decision makers. What we need are some forward thinkers who are willing to
stand firmly for public and democratic participation in the process, in the
formulation of whatever policies may be necessary to satisfy the
anti-terrorism brigade, so that whatever sacrifices we are being asked to
make on the altar of pro-active counter-terrorism, that such liberties it is
proposed to forego, are not decided by fiat behind closed doors, but are
decided upon in consultation with those stakeholders that will be most
affected, the public, and in advance of their implementation. Too often we
are presented with an 11th hour fait accomplis.
Under the present ICANN structure, that can only mean bolstering the public
input through At Large Elections and restoring the proposal for At Large
Directors to constitute no less than 50% of the Board, as per the NAIS
study. This is the best way, under the present structure, to prevent capture
and use of the internet as a weapon of mass destruction of freedoms and
civil liberties, and make no mistake, there is a clear and present danger
coming from within the ICANN organization itself. The public's best defense
against the internet being used as a weapon of terror against it, is to
ensure DNS control by elected officials, using democratic processes in which
it, the public, participates. No special interest business groups can be
entrusted with internet stability where political, economic, and social
stability is at stake. This is matter of life and death to some nations of
the world, not e-commerce.
I apologize for the length of this reply, but your post raises other
significant issues that need to be addressed. Regarding your comment about
open societies being the breeding ground for subversive activities. Every
society has subversive elements, however open or closed it may be, and the
extent to which these groups may infiltrate universities, political parties,
or attempt to control traditional and new media and so on, is a matter of
serious concern to all of us. Organizations that may be vulnerable for
reasons of their open structure, are not generally capable of monitoring
such activities themselves with any accuracy, if at all, certainly not
ICANN, which has no expertise at all. These tasks are undertaken by
government agencies, in the UK, it falls to MI5 and the Police Special
Branch, involving fulltime dedicated teams that are well funded and
equipped, whole armies of people using stealth tactics that involve
recruiting the best and brightest young minds at universities, and building
whole teams of people with specialised skills, all background checked for
political affiliations and cleared for access to government and related
official secrets, and backed up by the full force of the law to detain and
make arrests. ICANN cannot do any of that.
Clearly, the issue of capture by any serious terrorist group is well outside
ICANN's scope, and the very last thing it should be doing now is making an
amateurish attempt to reduce its risks on the vague notion that the DNS will
lower its risk of capture if it reduces public participation within its
organization. There is not a scrap of evidence for that position, and it is
inappropriate for ICANN to be setting itself up as some quasi-government
spy, but without any skills to do a proper job. After all, if a terrorist
wants to cause massive damage to the internet, it hardly seems necessary to
join the ALSO, formulate a motion, and rally the troups to rig the voting
procedures of a Working Group resolution. But it is these very processes
that will assist ICANN in defeating a more insidious attempt. I am neither a
technician, nor trained in terror, but I'm fairly sure that even I could
figure out a way to cause mayhem with the root servers without the benefit
of an ALSO. The time has come to start thinking out of the box on the
capture issue, to worry not so much about the bottom up, but about the top
down and every facet inbetween. It crossed my mind that if the next ICANN
Convention was hijacked, and key industry professionals were lined up and
shot one by one, some major disruption to e-commerce could be leveraged.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>Here are three headlines from this
> morning's New York Times, which can hardly be classed as a xenophobic
The New York Times has a job to do - preparing the American people for war.
I would not call that xenophobic, but traditional media is the government's
propoganda machine in times of war. This is War. Allow me to recommend some
alternative and outstanding writing on the relevant issues, published in
Newsweek's issue dated September 24, 2001, "God Bless America". Since this
issue has not yet appeared in complete form online, I would quote only a
short extract, but highly recommend the whole magazine for accurate
information as to what is happening and its relevance to the issues you
Page 65, "Tech's Double-Edged Sword. The same modern tools that enrich our
lives can be used against us. How bad will it get?" by Steven Levy.
" It was a nightmarish fulfillment of science fiction writer William
Gibson's proclamation that the street finds its own uses for technology. The
more powerful our tools are, the more dangerous they are when turned against
us. For centuries we've accepted that. It's simply the downside of tech.
Virtually no one dares ask whether the balance of technology may tilt too
far toward empowering the evil. Who would have a clue how to address the
situation? Human beings have a track record of pursuing what they see as
progress and asking questions later. While refusing to think the
Unthinkable, we create the circumstances that allow it to occur."
Other selected articles:
Processing a $25 Billion claim
Wall Street's Morality Play
Will we ever be safe again?
Air safety and beyond - Security vs. Liberties
Answering questions - expert advice for children
Anguish on the Airwaves - Television was our electric hearth
A peaceful faith - a fanatic few - more than 1 billion faithful believers
trust in the compassion and power of Allah. What is the religion of Islam
that turns a few extremists to terrorism?
Patriotism vs Ethnic Pride: An American Dilemma
The End of the End of History - The great political fights were over. Or so
we thought. Suddenly, governments matters again.
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> Life at ICANN isn't going to be the same either. Given the military
> mindset and anti-terrorist measures in Washington and other capitals,
> there is going to be a much greater stress on operational oversight
> of the DNS, on stability and on synchronization with related Internet
> security steps. There is going to be much less interest in who is
> represented by whom on the Board.
I believe you. The important thing is that the public must be able to trust
in the internet, that it will do it no harm, and yet ICANN, the entity
tasked with its technical coordination, has not been dealing with issues
surrounding the internet being pursued in an unfettered way as a weapon.
Prior to September 11th, it didn't seem important. ICANN's prime function
has been to promote e-commerce, essentially big business interests, and it's
levels of public participation have fallen far short of any level that an
internet governance body would require by any reasonable standards. ICANN's
most recent activities have only served to highlight failures, with respect
to accountability, and to the enforcements of the agreements it has made.
"Proof of concept" is not something that can be applied to matters of
national and global security. Really, there is nothing about ICANN's
management or structure that is suited to the tasks of tackling how to
combat terrorism in cyberspace.
The questions have to be, how will the big business interests play out the
future proposed structural changes recommended by the ALSO? If ICANN is
really changing its priorities, whereby it must switch from the further
development of e-commerce to proactive counter-terrorism, then will the ALSC
revise its proposed structural changes? Will there be another entity of
higher authority created to oversee those aspects in which ICANN is not
qualified, one that may seek to reclaim the DNS for the US, its military and
its UN allies? Does the US government expect ICANN to deal with countries
seeking to participate in the ICANN process that it exposes as harboring and
financing terrorism? If so, how?
> The GA, bastion of rugged individualism, has an opportunity to
> contribute to the solutions to these challenges. But if you're not
> interested in being part of common solutions and the compromises
> involved in them, and if throwing rocks at me for being the messenger
> of the new reality gives you a bigger thrill, go right ahead and lay
> a claim to irrelevance.
> - Mike
I appreciate the encouragement to address present challenges.
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