Re: [ga] GA-REVIEW & Other Mailing Lists

["William S. Lovell" <wsl@cerebalaw.com>]

Eric Dierker wrote:

> Both of you are right but in your brutality you are both wrong.  Joanna I am a
> proud US citizen yet my views on privacy make yours pale in comparison. You chose
> to make this an American versus UK issue you will lose.  Please do not smack my
> conutrymen in order to gain points.  You do not represent a position against me as
> I and every representative of my country is the US position.

I "represent" this country (the U.S.), as you put it, but most certainly do not
subscribe to the market model of William X. Walsh, but on this point will
adopt the EU view. In very broad strokes, I see nothing wrong with Joanna's
generalization as to a "UK" and a "US" view, so long as it is understood ("as
any fool can plainly see," as the saying goes) that there are similarly no doubt
many UK (or EU) citizens that would favor the "US view."

Point is, though, that this discussion has no point. No one is lobbing shots
across "the pond" here at all, but simply using a useable shorthand.

(Very excitable people in this place, methinks!)

Bill Lovell

> I am not offended but
> I will be shortly!
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Patrick Greenwell wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Joanna Lane wrote:
> >
> > > As a British citizen, I find myself advocating an EU position, pitted
> > > against the US position, represented by William Walsh. This has certainly
> > > increased my understanding about how US citizens have become conditioned to
> > > accept intrusion into their private lives, something that is not accepted so
> > > readily by the rest of the world.
> >
> > Joanne, with all due respect, I don't believe it is fair to generalize the
> > position of an entire country based on the opinions of one individual.
> >
> > Further, Britian has enacted some of the most intrusive legislation
> > related to the Internet that exists, the Regulation of Investigatory
> > Powers, which among other things gives British authorities the right
> > to intercept ALL Internet traffic as well as force individuals to turn
> > over encryption keys WITHOUT a warrant. I'd hardly call Britain a model of
> > privacy....
> >
> > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
> >                                Patrick Greenwell
> >                        Earth is a single point of failure.
> > \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
> >
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