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Re: [ga] [ADMIN] Suspension of Dave Crocker


	For God's sake.  One may or may not agree with Ms. Lane's
positions, but there is no doubt that she is a living, breathing person.  
Mr. Semich notwithstanding, I had no difficulty finding a year-old message
from Ms. Lane on the web on a topic completely unrelated to ICANN.  For
Mr. Langdell's benefit, I'll point out that RCN is an Internet service
provider (presumably Ms. Lane's), and that her username is hardly adequate
basis for his assumption that she is a UK resident.

	Whether this suspension was the best way to handle the nasty tone
on the list is another matter, but I respect Roberto's request that people
take that up with him privately.  Now can we get back to business?

Jon



On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Tim Langdell, PhD wrote:

> While agreeing this should not be endlessly debated in the public forum, I
> too note that "rcn" -- whom Joanna Lane appears to work for
> jo-uk@rcn.com)  -- does not appear to have a UK office. Perhaps Ms Lane
> could respond?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J. William Semich" <bill@mail.nic.nu>
> To: "Kevin J. Connolly" <connollyk@rspab.com>; <harald@Alvestrand.no>;
> <ga@dnso.org>
> Cc: <dhc2@dcrocker.net>
> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 6:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] [ADMIN] Suspension of Dave Crocker
> 
> 
> > I also object, for the same reasons.
> >
> > And I'd like to request verification that the entity referred to, jo-uk,
> is
> > an actual, individual person, and not a personality "created" by some
> > "real" person for GA posting purposes only, in effect as a JOKE. Searches
> > on the Web only turn up references to this email address and name WRT
> ICANN
> > - no other identifiable activity appears anywhere else, on any other
> topic.
> > The email address, the jo-uk, seems to have spontaneoulsy come to earth as
> > one of the many side effects of the creation of ICANN. No surprise that
> > some members of this list might think a JOKE is being played on them by
> the
> > entity behind the email address jo-uk.
> >
> > Bill Semich
> >
> > At 08:39 AM 4/5/01 -0400, Kevin J. Connolly wrote:
> > >I object.
> > >I object to the lack of even-handedness.
> > >While so many posters on this list feel not the least constrained by the
> > 5-posts per day limit, others are squashed for making the very obvious
> > observation that the non-suspended partner in the exchange does indeed
> have
> > an email address that makes an English speaker think that it's some kind
> of
> > JOKE.
> > >
> > >Okay, go ahead. I said it too. You wanna suspend me now, too?
> > >
> > >Kevin J. Connolly
> > >Attorney and Counselor at Law
> > >Robinson Silverman Pearce Aronsohn & Berman, LLP
> > >1290 Sixth Aveue of the Americas
> > >New York, NY 10104
> > >212-541-1066/fax 212-541-1346
> > >This note is not legal advice. If it were legal advice, it would come
> with
> > an invoice.
> > >
> > >Live, like there's no tomorrow.....
> > >     Love, like you've never been hurt.....
> > >          And dance, like no one's watching.
> > >
> > >>>> Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@Alvestrand.no> 04/05/01 05:38AM >>>
> > >The monitor has watched with sadness and some amazement the degree of
> > >innuendo and accusations being tossed around in the debate between Dave
> > >Crocker and Joanna Lane.
> > >
> > >However, a new low was reached in
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg00133.html, the last sentence
> ofD
> > > ave Crocker's mail.
> > >
> > >This was entirely irrelevant, inappropriate, and probably intended to be
> > >insulting.
> > >(not being a native English speaker, I'm not even sure I get the
> point...)
> > >
> > >Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net> is hereby suspended from the list for 2
> > >weeks, until April 19, 2001.
> > >
> > >BTW: Initial complaints came from William Walsh and Chris Ambler. The
> > >source of complaint was not a factor in the evaluation, but it is not
> onlym
> > > e who think this was over the line.
> > >
> > >             Harald Alvestrand
> > >             List monitor




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