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Re: [ga] The Jeff Williams filter
- To: ga@dnso.org
- Subject: Re: [ga] The Jeff Williams filter
- From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>
- Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:00:39 -0800
- CC: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <Harald@Alvestrand.no>,       "Alejandro Pisanty, DGSCA y FQ, UNAM" <apisan@servidor.unam.mx>,       Andrew Pincus <APincus@doc.gov>, Becky Burr <bburr@ntia.doc.gov>,       commerce <commerce@mail.house.gov>,       DNSO Listadmin <DNSO.Listadmin@dnso.org>,       Elloit Maxwell <emaxwell@doc.gov>, Eric Menge <Eric.Menge@sba.gov>,       Esther Dyson <edyson@edventure.com>,       George Conrades <gconrades@icann.org>,       james tierney <james.tierney@usdoj.gov>,       Jane Coffin <jcoffin@ntia.doc.gov>, "javier@aui.es" <javier@aui.es>,       "Joe (Virus Laden Web Page Expert) Sims" <Joe_Sims@jonesday.com>,       Larry Irving <lirving@ntia.doc.gov>,       Linda Wilson <lswilson@free.midcoast.com>,       "Louis L. Touton" <Louis_L._Touton@jonesday.com>,       Louis Touton <touton@icann.org>,       "vinton g. cerf - ISOC" <vcerf@MCI.NET>,       William Daley <wdaley@doc.gov>
- Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
- References: <4.2.0.58.20000110163738.03ca0030@dokka.maxware.no>
- Sender: owner-ga@dnso.org
Harald and all,
Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
> I have investigated the filtering of messages from Jeff Williams on the
> GA mailing list.
> The facts seem to be as follows:
  First of all Harald, these are not Facts, but supposition.  Can you prove
any of these statements?  I am quite sure you cannot.  Please refrain form
making false statements in the future.  It is bad form, and displays poor
judgment.
>
>
> - In August, multiple people asked for the removal of Jeff Williams from the
>    list, because he was posting a multitude of messages, seemingly without
>    contributing any sense to the discussion.
  This is an opinion, not a fact, Harald.  Please site any or all of those
messages that are not contributory in nature.  If not, than this is
just a smear job.
>
> - After extensive documentation of the Jeff Williams phenomenon had been
>    sent to the list manager, Jeff Williams' ability to post to the list
>    was removed.
  Why was I not informed?  Who sent this "Information"?  What was it's
nature?  Why when I ask the list admin over 15 times, was I never once
replied to regarding this SELECTIVE CENSORSHIP?
>
> - Three more email addresses, all suspected of being used by Jeff Williams,
>    have also been denied posting rights.
"Suspected" is correct.  But they obviously are not used by me.
>
>
> These addresses were blocked administratively.
> Since the list is now discussing what the right ruleset for the list is,
> it seems appropriate to remove those blocks.
>
> Regards,
>
>                       Harald T. Alvestrand
>
> --
> Harald Tveit Alvestrand, EDB Maxware, Norway
> Harald.Alvestrand@edb.maxware.no
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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