[ga] RE: Whois - Apnics RIR whois bugs? Re: [apnic-talk] Is the NIC-HDLid supposed to be unique

[John Tran <john@apnic.net>]

Dear Meng,

Thank you for your enquiry about your nic-handle.

Searches of the APNIC Whois Database include results from the TWNIC Whois database too, which is
mirrored. As nic-handles are created independently in each of the databases it's possible records
will exist with apparently identical keys.

However, nic-handles are unique in their respective databases. Your nic-handle is sourced from the
APNIC Whois Database while the other nic-handle is sourced from the TWNIC Whois Database.
Therefore, your nic-handle is unique in the APNIC database.

No inter-database referencing of objects occurs. Consequently it would not be possible for someone
to use a nic-handle from the TWNIC database to update an object in the APNIC database.

To avoid confusion, it's possible to restrict searches to a particular database by adding the
following command option to your Whois search:

  -s <source>, eg. -s APNIC or -s TWNIC

To illustrate the different database sources I've highlighted these and the nic-handles in the
search results below.

  person:       Meng Tsai
  address:      Alley 286, No. 54, 3rd Floor,
  address:      Chein Kuo South Road
  phone:        +886-2-701-9128
  e-mail:       tsaim@mft.com
**nic-hdl:      MT1-TW
  notify:       dbmon@apnic.net
  mnt-by:       MAINT-NULL
  changed:      hostmaster@apnic.net 19950912
**source:       APNIC

  person:       Michael Tasi
  address:      Charming Information Co., Ltd.
  address:      18NO MIN.CHIH.TUNG.RD HSIN.YING.CATY
  address:      TAINAN County TAIWAN
  country:      TW
  phone:        +886-7-225-1215
  fax-no:
  e-mail:       askdog@mail.tonet.net
**nic-hdl:      MT1-TW
  remarks:      This information has been partially mirrored by APNIC from
  remarks:      TWNIC. To obtain more specific information, please use the
  remarks:      TWNIC whois server at whois.twnic.net.
  hanged:      hostmaster@twnic.net 19990924
**source:       TWNIC

I trust that this explains the apparent duplication of nic-handles. If you have any more questions
please contact the APNIC Member Services Helpdesk at:

    Phone:    +61-7 3858-3188
    Fax:      +61-7-3858-3199
    Email:    helpdesk@apnic.net

Best wishes

Son
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On Thu, 7 Nov 2002, Meng Tsai wrote:

> Hi Jeff and All
> 
> Thanks for the notes.
> But more important, can you or others advise how to
> report this problem or correct the problem ?
> 
> I got lost in the APNIC web site for searching such
> contact info.
> 
> Thanks in adv,
> 
> Meng Tsai
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Williams [mailto:jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 3:18 PM
> To: Meng Tsai
> Cc: apnic-talk@apnic.net; General Assembly of the DNSO
> Subject: Whois - Apnics RIR whois bugs? Re: [apnic-talk] Is the NIC-HDL
> id supposed to be unique
> 
> 
> Meng and all,
> 
>   Yes this needs to be corrected right away.  If not, such could be
> a prelude to identity theft.  That is a fairly serious problem.  Perhaps
> the new APNIC Whois has some bugs in it?
> 
> Meng Tsai wrote:
> 
> > Hi All,
> >
> > If not, how/who can I contact APNIC for the correction ?
> >
> > I found out that someone else is sharing the same handle
> > as I have in the whois db.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Meng Tsai
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> Regards,
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