Re: [ga] Nomination for representative to the NC Review TF - Eric Dierker (fwd)

[Stefan Probst <stefan.probst@gmx.net>]

Jeff,

I can write you a whole list of which mails I responded to whom. Unless you 
hacked my computer and changed the header infos, it is as I wrote below. 
Before I wrote my post I carefully checked, which mails were sent to whom 
and when. You obviously didn't.

I will ask the list moderators whether their lists are archived (I think 
they are) and about the URL.
I will send you then privately.

Concerning the .vnnic.com domain, you too got a copy of the mail from the 
VNNIC people, so you know, what they think about....

Stefan


At 02:50 27.6.2001 -0700, Jeff Williams wrote:
>Stefan and all assembly members,
>
>Stefan Probst wrote:
>
> > At 22:29 26.6.2001 -0700, Jeff Williams wrote:
> > >Stefan and all assembly members,
> > >
> > >Stefan Probst wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Jeff,
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure, whether this is the right venue to discuss .vn issues.
> > >
> > >I am quite sure it is not.  My original response on this thread was made
> > >to you, Eric, Thomas, Lee ect..  privately.  You choose to post it
> > >to this forum.
> >
> > I did answer to your posts privately. However, before I received them, I
> > made a short statement to the list, saying, that the .vn ccTLD is not to be
> > launched within a few days, but in fact up and running since years.
>
>   I am sorry, but no you didn't.  Your responded to them publicly.
>Not that that bothers me all that much.  It doesn't.  It is only that
>I felt that it would be better not to as others that are involved are
>not participants to the DNSO GA list.  And I see now again that
>you have yet again decided to respond again publicly.  That's fine,
>I shall also do so here...
>
> >
> > You responded to that post and thus it was continuing here on this list. I
> > did not drag this thread to the list, but merely continuing it.
>
>   No that is not correct.  But really it doesn't matter....
>
> >
> >
> > >If any forum is a good one for this sort of exchange
> > >it would be the ga-roots@dnso.org Forum.  However sense you choose
> > >to again respond on this forum I am obliged to respond as well here.
> >
> > OK, let's stop this "escalation" here on the list. Everybody interested,
> > pls. announce it, and we'll do a c/c list.
>
>   Of course I am interested.  As spokesman for our members some of which
>are from the region in question but living in the US and other countries...
>
> >
> >
> > > > I forwarded the URLs and the mails to some other people who are 
> working on
> > > > the Net in Vietnam, and their comments were much more harsh than 
> mine. An
> > > > absolutely misleading domain like "vnnic.com" for somebody who maybe
> > > > provides some SW for the registry, or will be a future registrar or
> > > > whatever, is IMHO everything else than honest business behaviour.
> > >
> > >Whom exactly did you send the URL's you mention to?  E-Mail addresses 
> please.
> >
> > It is meanwhile posted (forwarded by somebody else) to the "[VN IT
> > discussion group]" <vnit-l@coombs.anu.edu.au>.
>
>   Ok thank you!  I am glad you finally answered this question openly...
>
> >
> > This list contains people who are in development and/or IT in Vietnam. It
> > is not yet put on "[VN IT I discussion group]" <vniti-l@coombs.anu.edu.au>,
> > a list for internet techies in Vietnam (techies of several ISPs and
> > others). On the latter list we helped e.g. the VDC people to sort out their
> > messy DSN setup last year. Both lists run on a server of Rob Hurle.
>
>   Is there and on-line archive?  If so, what is the URL?  Is this a public
>forum?
>
> >
> >
> > >I also do not see any business behavior on the part of vnnic.com or
> > >hi-tek.com thus far.  If you could be a bit more specific please?
> >
> > What does the domain "vnnic.com" imply? Since when does a contracted
> > marketing company assume the name of the marketed product?
> > You judge.
>
>   I am not passing judgment.  I don't feel there is enough known for me
>to do so.  I believe that you don't have enough info to do so either.
>In fact in your previous post on this thread you admitted as much...
>See your comment just below...
>
> >
> >
> > > > I still don't know what hi-tek is really doing.
> > >
> > >   Yes this seems obvious to me...  Thank you for admitting it...
> >
> > If their website would be more about detailled facts, not so much about
> > wishful dreaming (at least as of this time), I would know better....
>
>   Dreaming?  That sounds a bit off base if you don't know...
>
> >
> > For now I have to live on the bits and pieces, which I get from your/their
> > mails and from their websites.
> >
> > Rgds.
> > Stefan
>
>Regards,
>
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