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Re: [ga] MOTION: Request for a GA resolution on an IDN holders'constituency (IC)


Now I see the reason this is a non-starter.

Domain Name Holder(s) and Individual(s) are two distinct groups.  I do not own a
Domain Name Hence I am an individual.  Joop owns a domain name hence, while of
course he is an individual, he is a Domain Name Holder.  Corporations can be
Domain Name Holders but not individuals, Registrars and Registries can be holders
but not individuals.  Individuals without domain names, and by shear numbers this
is the vast majority of internetstakeholders, cannot and presumably do not want to
be domain name holders.

Believe it or not most of us net consumers want our ISPs to handle that kind of
thing.  When you sign up for cable service here in California - the home of ICANN
- you can get anything you want including website hosting without registering a
domain name, you really just check a bunch of boxes and it is done. (and it costs
about the same as premium TV service)

Just like many of us with our cars, we just take them to the mechanic.  Don't
think for a second that that means we don't vote for and participate in law making
and policy regarding our precious cars, but we leave mechanics to the mechanics.

You see in my suspension I was cited for not contributing to the technical aspects
of the discussion.  There is no club within ICANN I can join as an Individual who
does not contribute to the technical issues.  Do not places me with you guys who
just want to protect your domain names.

Please review the discussions on Bill of Rights.  It is as though most just assume
that the BoRs does not apply to individuals without domain names (just like woman
and slaves in the U.S. prior to later sufferage)

DO NOT PLACE REAL INDIVIDUALS WITHIN THE GROUP FOR DOMAIN NAME HOLDERS

Sincerely,

Joop Teernstra wrote:

> Since the Chair has now opened the floor for motions I would like to start off
> with this one:
>
> Motion for the Recognition of an Individuals' Constituency (IC)
>
> Considering the majority vote  expressed by the physically assembled GA in
> Santiago and Yokohama,
>
> considering the support expressed by the Association of Computing Machinery
> (ACM) since Berlin 1999 and by the non commercial constituency of the DNSO for
> an Individuals' constituency, since Santiago 2000,
>
> considering the Voting of the members of the DNSO-review working group  on
> this
> subject,
>
> considering the petition made by the first Steering Committee of  the IDNO
> which reads as follows
> August 11, 1999
> To the members of the Board of Directors of the
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330
> Marina del Rey, CA 90292
> USA.
> L.S.,
> This letter constitutes a reiteration of our public petition of 23 April, 1999
> under Article VI-B, Section 3(d) of the ICANN bylaws for recognition of the
> Individual Domain Name Owner’s constituency (the IDNO) as a Constituency of
> ICANN’s Domain Name Supporting Organization (the DNSO.)
>
> The IDNO was formed in April 1999. It is a self-organized, primarily member
> funded, highly international constituency, springing from no pre-existing
> organizations or structures. Yet its membership is already larger than of any
> of the existing DNSO Constituencies. And we expect that the IDNO's membership
> will grow rapidly once the IDNO is a recognized constituency.
>
> IDNO members are active participants in ICANN, having attended several of
> ICANN’s meetings.
>
> Our members come from many parts of the world.
>
> IDNO members are active participants in the DNSO’s General Assembly and in the
> DNSO’s various working groups.
>
> The IDNO maintains a site on the World Wide Web at http://www.idno.org/
> containing a members’ list, charter, archive of on-line discussions, voting
> system, and other materials and resources.
>
> The IDNO has a public, archived e-mail discussion list.
>
> The IDNO is the only constituency with a fully operational electronic voting
> system that has been repeatedly and successfully used to guide the IDNO as it
> evolves.
>
> The purpose the IDNO is to give a voice to those individuals who “own” domain
> names.
> The IDNO’s focus is on individuals, not on corporations or organizations. The
> IDNO does not care whether a member is a businessperson, a teacher, an artist,
> or a person using the Internet to express his or her opinions.
>
> Because essentially all of the existing DNSO constituencies are open only to
> corporations and organizations, these individuals have no way but the IDNO to
> fully participate within the DNSO.
>
> We must mention that membership in the DNSO General Assembly, although
> nominally open to individuals, is no substitute for having a Constituency to
> defend Individuals' domain name interests. It is only through the IDNO as a
> recognized Constituency that individual domain name owners can participate
> with
> a full and peer voice on the DNSO’s names council.
>
> Why should the Individuals be represented in the DNSO?
> ·       Registrations of domain names by individuals represent a large
> number of
> all domain name registrations. A study conducted by Network Solutions
> estimates
> that within the United States alone, 10% of the domain names registered in the
> .com, .net, and .org domains are registered to individuals. Further, there is
> evidence to indicate that the percentage may be increasing. This leads to an
> estimated 300,000 individual domain names owners in .com, .net, and .org
> within
> the United States alone. The number worldwide, especially when in all top
> level
> domains are considered, could be substantially higher.
> ·       Every one of these hundreds of thousands of people have a significant
> and well defined interest in the operation and development of the domain name
> system and the Internet. Yet none of these hundreds of thousands of people are
> eligible to be admitted to any of the other constituencies.
> ·       Domains owned by individuals are often used for both commercial and
> non-commercial purposes. Individuals can not be adequately represented in
> either "business" or "non-commercial" constituencies. It is our feeling
> that as
> the net grows it will become quite common for personal hobbies to evolve into
> significant business entities.
> ·       The IDNO is the only constituency that would provide a voice for these
> people.
> ·       Interests and concerns of Individual Domain name Owners typically
> do not
> coincide with the Interests and concerns of the other constituencies
> represented in the DNSO. Indeed, in many cases their interests are in
> conflict.
> Thus it is necessary for there to be a constituency with a clear focus on the
> needs of individual domain name owners.
> ·       Without a clear and fully empowered place for individual domain name
> owners, the DNSO will be a weak and limited body, speaking for only part of
> the
> Internet community.
> The IDNO has adopted an inclusive approach to its membership. Unlike other
> Constituencies which require that a candidate for membership be a corporation
> or an organization, or be engaged in a particular type of business, the IDNO
> simply looks at whether a candidate “owns” a domain name.
> The IDNO measures ownership not by legal formalisms, but rather by a pragmatic
> evaluation whether the candidate has sufficient elements of control over a
> domain name that it amounts to what reasonable people would consider to be
> ownership. Our membership rules permit membership even when the domain name
> owner owns the name through a intermediary, such as a corporation or trust,
> that is fully under the control of the candidate.
> The IDNO has evolved beyond a gathering of people. The IDNO has both an
> elected
> Steering Committee and a Membership Committee. The IDNO is an early, and
> perhaps the first successful experiment in broadly based democratic
> participation within ICANN.
> The IDNO brings to ICANN the concerns of the individual domain name owner,
> concerns that have so far lacked an advocate.
>
> (appendices omitted: for the complete petition and its signatories, see
> www.idno.org/petition.htm)
>
> considering that the ICANN  Board has until now refrained from responding in
> public to this petition and from publishing it on its website for public
> comment,
>
> considering the Bylaws art. VI, section 3 (d) that reads:
>
> (d) Any group of individuals or entities may petition the Board for
> recognition
> as a new or separate Constituency. Any such petition will be posted for public
> comment pursuant to Article III, Section 3. The Board may create new
> Constituencies in response to such a petition, or on its own motion, if it
> determines that such action would serve the purposes of the Corporation.
>
> I move that the GA will express its support for the immediate acknowledgement
> of an Individuals' Constituency by the Board in accordance with its Bylaws.
>
> I move that this support will take the form of a GA Resolution recommending
> that
> the Board will  place either the creation of such an IC or the "approval in
> principle" on its Agenda for a decision in Stockholm.
>
> Respectfully yours,
>
> --Joop Teernstra LL.M.--
> the Cyberspace Association and
> the constituency for Individual Domain Name Owners
> Elected representative.
> http://www.idno.org
>
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