Re: [ga] Re: Additional Mailing Lists

[Jefsey Morfin <jefsey@wanadoo.fr>]

Dear Patrick,
Sotiris is perfectly right. What concerns the DNSO is not what the other do,
but what the iCANN do internally and to the others.

In the immediate you can do two things:

1. keep going with the DNSO/GA management issues. Golden Rule: put 100
    people on an iCANN ML, 10 will participate and only 1 subject will interest
    them : "how to vote on our voting system and get funded for discussing it".

2. if you are somewhat interested in the real world, you might consider the
     Inclusive Name Space management by the iCANN for the iCANN TLDs
     and iCANN TLDs users (I am NOT interested in the legality of existing
     ".biz", I just know it does exist). And respond to that three questions:

     1. why do the internet community need that much a colliding ".biz"
         more than ".web" or ".coop". I never heard the slightest reason?

     2. can anyone, starting with Vint Cef, responsibly cetify to the DoC 
that the
         loading of a ".biz" not managed by Leah in the root will not 
prevent all
         the .biz bound mails to land in the user intended mailbox.

     3. if not, is the risk worth the reason? Who will take that commitment 
(i.e.
         get sued if he is wrong).

      May I remind you that the GA participates to the DNSO work. That the
      DNSO mission is to advise the BoD. Except if you can show me that
      creating Internet unstability was part of the DNSO recomendation
      concerning gTLDs, I think that all those preventing us to strongly and
      boldly impress on the BoD our technical disagreement with any act
      leading to any Internet stability for whatever reasin religious, 
technical,
      political, self interest, personnal pride, stubbon dumbness... is making
      us failing our mission and fighting against our duties. I acknowledge 
the
      right to do this to anyone of us, this is democracy. But you will not
      remove my right not to agree with them, who ever they may be.

Jefsey

On 15:24 22/04/01, Sotiris said:
>With all due respect, Patrick, I think it would be wise to leave aside the 
>topic
>of competitive roots.  This, because  the competitive roots topic is 
>really not an
>ICANN relevant topic; the ICANN intransigence on competitive roots is firmly
>entrenched and IMHO it will take a miracle to get the BoD to even comment on
>altroots.  Afetr all, competitive roots are just that: competition.  As 
>far as I
>can see, the competitive root topic is a dead end at this point, one which 
>will
>waste much time and produce absolutely nothing substantive.  We all saw 
>how that
>discussion went recently on this ML, why let it happen again?  I think we 
>should
>stick to ICANN-related matters at this juncture.
>
>Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
>
>Patrick Corliss wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, April 22, 2001 8:49 PM (AEST), Danny Younger wrote:
> > Subject: [ga] Re: Additional Mailing Lists
> >
> > > Hi Patrick,
> > >
> > > Please keep in mind my comment, "This proposed collection of lists will
> > > further be discussed by the General Assembly in the course of the 
> next few
> > > days".  The lists that I proposed are only a suggestion, and I am 
> expecting
> > > the GA to make up its own mind regarding the way forward with regard to
> > > these mailing lists.   You will note that many of the proposed lists 
> reflect
> > > the recommendations (motions) already put forward by the membership.
> >
> > Thank you, Danny.
> >
> > Perhaps the GA membership will consider whether they prefer five:
> >
> > (1)    [ga-ext]    External Relationships  (constituencies et al)
> > (2)    [ga-int]     Internal Processes  (list rules, elections etc.)
> > (3)    [ga-reg]    Registration  (whois, existing systems)
> > (4)    [ga-rts]     Competitive Roots  (alts & multilinguals)
> > (5)    [ga-tip]     Trademarks & IP  (UDRP & WIPO-2)
> >
> > eight:
> >
> > > a. Rules and Procedures of the General Assembly [rules]
> > > b. Participation, Website, Outreach and Education [outreach]
> > > c. Finance & Funding Support [funding]
> > > d. Ongoing DNSO Review [review]
> > > e. Individuals Constituency [ic]
> > > f. Alternate Roots [roots]
> > > g. UDRP & WIPO Recommendations [udrp]
> > > h. Privacy & WHOIS [whois]
> >
> > or some other model.
> >
> > As I understand it we are not just talking mailing lists but the whole 
> Working
> > Group set up including Chairs and secretarial support.
> >
> > Best regards
> > Patrick Corliss
> >
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