Re: [wg-review] Re(2): [cctld-discuss] Comments on review of DNSOby Mr Park

[Pilar Luque <pluque@nic.es>]

Dear Robert,

Maybe and I say maybe "everyone understands English".  I am not even
convinced of such statement, but could you please try to understand the
follwing:

1.There is an abismal difference betwen UNDERSTAND english texts and
DISCUSS in public in english...



2.You cannot ask non-native English speakers for all of the
following:
    - be as fast as native English speakers to understand
      all subtle issues in ICANN process
    - be as comfortable as as native English speakers in the anglo-saxon
      way of doing, with all procedures, term of references, etc,
      all what is inherent to this cluture they do not dominate
    - be equally skilled on all legal matters of common law
    - compete with native English speakers companies for new gTLD
    - pay for ICANN, either directly, or indirectly
    - and volunteer on their spare time to translate ICANN system
      and documents into local languages








Robert Elz wrote:
> 
> What has been missed here, is that the translation of ICANN
> documents into other languages isn't the issue, or the problem.
> And it isn't because "everyone understands English" whether that
> is true or not for the "everyone" who actually matter.
> 
> The problem is that there's no point at all making documents
> available for people to read and comment on, unless you're
> willing to listen to the comments you receive.   And I am not
> implying here that ICANN won't listen (also, regardless of
> how true that might be).   What I mean is that if you give
> people documents in the local language to comment on, the
> comments will all come back in the same language - the translation
> problem that exists is translating the comments back to a
> form that can be understood by those making the decision
> (at the very least, into English).
> 
> If you aren't willing to commit to doing that (for all the
> comments, you don't get to pick and choose) then there's no
> point making the original documents available in other
> languages (unless your aim is just to make some kind of
> political statement) - those who can comment in English can
> almost certainly read English well enough to read the documents
> (writing it is much harder than reading).
> 
> And giving people documents to comment on, and then telling them
> that their comments must be ignored, as none of the decision
> makers can understand them is worse than useless.
> 
> kre
> 
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