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RE: [wg-c] bounced, reposted for Paul Garrin



For the record, I have never advocated multiple UNCOORDINATED root systems.
If you read my paper you will note a definite requirement for
inter-cooperation among root service operators. Without coordination and
cooperation, none of this works - period.

Also, contrary to Dave and Paul's little "mine's bigger" exchange, this work
is not "rocket science". It's straight-forward engineering. Set the scope,
determine the requirements, design/implement/deploy. Where most efforts fail
is either with scope creep, or a simplistic view of the requirements.
Everything below that is almost irrelevant (watching out for Dijkstra's
"uncomputable tasks"). In fact, I would rather not have any Ph.D's directly
on such a project, as they tend to want to redefine scope too much.

The document that I published
<http://www.dnso.net/library/dnso-tld.mhsc-position.shtml> is more along the
lines of a high-level concept/scope/requirements setting excersize. I
honestly believe that it is something that needs doing before we can have
new TLDs. It removes the ad hoc nature of the present TLD's operations and
determines a consistent service level for TLD operators. This latter point
is a business requirement and not a technical one.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-wg-c@dnso.org [mailto:owner-wg-c@dnso.org]On Behalf Of
> Harald Tveit Alvestrand
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 12:31 AM
> To: Jonathan Weinberg; wg-c@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [wg-c] bounced, reposted for Paul Garrin
>
>
> At 22:33 19.12.99 -0400, Jonathan Weinberg wrote:
> > >From: Paul Garrin <pg@lokmail.net>
> >
> > >Again, I don't make such grand assertions.  However, my engineers,
> > >one of whom is a PhD candidate at Columbia U. and has worked for
> > >NASA and DARPA and who holds several patents, and another
> who has worked
> > for
> > >Lucent, are competent in these areas and are working on
> just such a system
> > >which we will open up to a testbed in the coming months.
> If you are
> > >interested in participating please keep in touch with us
> and we will
> > >keep you up to date on our progress.
> > >
>
> fyi, rumour has told me that most large-scale ISPs do "root
> hacking" on
> behalf of their customers, effectively moving some of the
> root servers as
> seen from their customers' sites.
> You might be reinventing a wheel here.
>
> The root is currently technically distributed among 13 boxes
> - the limit is
> set by the DNS maximum UDP packet size.
>
> One result of the intensity of the debate about ICANN has
> been that a lot
> of people are scared to discuss technical solutions for
> increasing the
> availability of the present coordinated root in public, for
> fear of being
> "embraced" by those who want multiple uncoordinated roots.
>
> And that's not good.
>
>                        Harald A
>
>
> --
> Harald Tveit Alvestrand, EDB Maxware, Norway
> Harald.Alvestrand@edb.maxware.no
>