[wg-c] reposted for Brian Carpenter

[Jonathan Weinberg <weinberg@mail.msen.com>]

Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 08:27:10 -0600
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian@hursley.ibm.com>
To: rmeyer@mhsc.com
CC: "'Jonathan Weinberg'" <weinberg@mail.msen.com>, wg-c@dnso.org,
        "Eva Frolich (E-mail)" <eva@nic-se.se>
Subject: Re: [wg-c]  bounced message, reposted for Eva =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=F6lich?=

Hi,

I have no idea what you are talking about w.r.t. the IAB. The IAB has stopped
dealing with TLD politics since the formation of ICANN and the DNSO.
There is no technical issue here.

Also your tone is insulting, which I don't appreciate, although it is
typical of the entire TLD "debate" of the last few years.

Please don't copy me on such discussions in future.

Regards,

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Brian E Carpenter (IAB Chair)
Program Director, Internet Standards & Technology, IBM
On assignment for IBM at http://www.iCAIR.org
Attend INET 2000: http://www.isoc.org/inet2000
Non-IBM email: brian@icair.org
Ethernet address: 00-00-AC-CF-5B-82

"Roeland M.J. Meyer" wrote:
>
> It can be argued that this is somewhat of an IETF issue as well, but I would
> suspect that the IAB would argue against. This is because it would undermine
> their stated position, wrt gTLDs.
>
> The distinction between "regions" and gTLDs is a fuzzy one at best. Granted
> that the EU is a political region, which is not cleanly bound by geography,
> a gTLD can include a TLD with the exact same type definition as the EU.
> Mainly, an area defined by political or corporate will, that encompasses a
> geographical region, not bound by a single sovreignty.
>
> I have stated before that Brian Carpenter, and the IAB, speak in advance of
> thought and that they don't know what they are talking about half of the
> time. Ergo, they paint themselves into this type of corner all too often.
> Now, they have to vigorously defend their position. This is sad.
>
> Arbitrary non-technical restrictions don't belong in the DNS policies and
> the IAB should be the primary advocate of that position. That they are not,
> speaks volumes against them.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-wg-c@dnso.org [mailto:owner-wg-c@dnso.org]On Behalf Of
> > Jonathan Weinberg
> > Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 9:24 AM
> > To: wg-c@dnso.org
> > Subject: [wg-c] bounced message, reposted for Eva Frölich
> >
> >
> > >Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 07:55:44 +0100
> > >To: wg-c@dnso.org
> > >From: Eva =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=F6lich?= <info@nic-se.se>
> > >Subject: Re: [wg-c] Are cc:TLDs included in our Charter?
> > >
> > >.eu or not .eu is a very sensitive discussion and the final
> > word is not
> > >said yet.
> > >People I been talking too is sure that the question sooner
> > or later will
> > >fall on the table of the DNSO and probably then WG C. At the
> > same time the
> > >different politicians within the EU wan´t so have a say and
> > I wouldn´t be
> > >astonished if even politicians outside EU has a standpoint
> > (there might be
> > >more regions - geographic, cutural, sociopolitic etc) in the world.
> > >
> > >For your information there has been ongoing discussions
> > within ITU for the
> > >last 5 years on having a regional countrycode for telephony
> > services within
> > >Europe (a question driven by the Commission). ITU  has
> > though got lost in
> > >the definition of "region"......
> > >
> > >/ Eva
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 18:35 1999-12-10 -0500, A.M. Rutkowski wrote:
> > >>Hi Elisabeth,
> > >>
> > >>>==> To keep the record straight: .EU is not *regional*,
> > >>>     but European Union, it is a reserved code
> > >>>     (http://www.din.de/gremien/nas/nabd/iso3166ma/)
> > >>
> > >>Of course, it's regional - unless the European Union
> > >>somehow became a country.  Indeed, it's apparently classified
> > >>as an "exceptional reservation" as described at:
> > >>http://www.din.de/gremien/nas/nabd/iso3166ma/reserved.html
> > >>
> > >>I say apparently, because neither the list of reserved
> > >>code elements, nor EU's category is publicly available.
> > >>It's safe to presume, however, that it's not likely to
> > >>be either "transitional" or "indeterminate."
> > >>
> > >>d'accord?
> > >>
> > >>-tony
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >_____________________________________________________________
> > __________
> > >Eva Frölich
> > >e-mail:      eva@nic-se.se
> > >NIC-SE, Box 5774, 114 87 Stockholm
> > >
> > >http://www.nic-se.se
> > >
> > >
> >