Re: [wg-b] "Oops" domains: La illah wa allah wa muhammad rasul buyuk....

["Martin B. Schwimmer" <martys@interport.net>]

This scenario is an argument against procedures which create automatic
results such as exclusions and in favor of procedures which advise parties'
of each others existence such as searching and notification.

It is useful for UKGAMES to know of the scope of Buyuk Turkey's rights, and
vice versa.  Most businesses do not want to infringe or be infringed upon.
To apply for an exclsion and then have one company challenge the others'
exclusion seems like a pointless exercise.




At 07:52 PM 9/8/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Jonathan Cohen wrote:
>
>> Excellent question!---any comment out there?
>> Jonathan
>
>Slightly off-topic. Tried coming up with a reasoned response to include
fully the
>linguistic accidents Mr Schwimmer alludes to and Harald's slightly hasty
dismissal
>of Japanese famous marks, one assumes there will not be many famous
Norwegian marks
>in Japan either.
>
>However can I forward you this as a broader statement of a problem of
which you
>would have to take account: i.e. putative famous marks which are part of
the normal
>discourse of another language and vice versa. Example for theoretical
examples sake,
>semantics and references changed..
>
>Subject: Re: [Re: Bizi niçin kimse duymuyor???]
>
>ALLAH ASKINA YARDIMLARINIZI KENDINIZ ULASTIRINIZ. BURADA INSANLAR 6-7 GÜN
>KUYRUKTA BEKLIYORLAR. VE CADIR ALAMIYORLAR. BIR EKIBINIZ YOK MU? BURADA
>FELAKET GELIYORUM DIYOR. GELIN YARDIMLARINIZI ORGANIZE EDIN. INSANLARI TESBIT
>EDIN. ÖZELLIKLE ÇADIR VE UYKU TULUMU BÜYÜK IHTIYAÇ. DAHA NASIL ANLATALIM.
>DEVLET SAKARYA DA 2500 ÖLÜDEN BAHSEDIYOR. BURAYI BILEN BIRISI YOK MU? SEHIR
>YERLER BIR OLMUS VE EN AZ 10,000 ÖLÜ VAR. NIÇIN BUNLAR SAKLANIYOR? ÇOCUKLAR
>HASTA. ÖLECEKLER. SIZ MODERN BIR DÜNYADASINIZ ALLAH ASKINA GELIN BURAYI BIR
>GÖRÜN. BURASI DÜNYANIN EN BÜYÜK VE GÖRÜLMEMIS BIR SAGLIK FELAKETINI
>YASAYABILIR. VE BÜROKRASI KESINLIKLE FARKINDA DEGIL. BURAYA GELIN.
>
>Interested in the relative merits of Buyuk.com, buyuk.plc.uk, buyuk.tr and
their
>putative famous marks, should they be respectively accorded in Paris
Convention-like
>fashion..
>
>For this example, who is going to send what to whom from the proposed
infringement
>database? Who is in there? The first one to become amazon.buyuk.tld? Not
that that
>would be a bad thing.
>
>However, it would seem to me that the home of buyuk.com as a famous mark
is in
>Turkey, as part of natural language prior to any commercial property
considerations,
>and the use of idiomatic Turkish expressions meaning 'famous engineering
and leisure
>company' in TLD strings should be passed to the appropriate authority before
>approval..
>
>Please correct me if it is a misconception.that, at the point that
buyuk.tr, that
>famous global Turkish engineering and leisure company,  attempts to
register as a
>famous mark (some wayaway), it will be able to demand that ukgames (the
owner of
>buyuk.com) return its appropriate domain?
>
>That was attempting to apply the rules as I understood from your
discourse. Have
>they got it wrong?
>
>Attachment Converted: "C:\EUDORA\Attach\measday.vcf"
>

@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @