21 February 2002.
Proposed agenda and related documents http://www.dnso.org/dnso/notes/20020214.NCteleconf-agenda.html
List of attendees:
Peter de Blanc ccTLD Elisabeth Porteneuve ccTLD Oscar Robles Garay ccTLD Philip Sheppard Business Marilyn Cade Business Grant Forsyth Business Greg Ruth ISPCP Antonio Harris ISPCP [absent, apologies, proxy to Tony Holmes] Tony Holmes ISPCP proxy for Tony Harris Philipp Grabensee Registrars [absent, apologies, proxy to Ken Stubbs] Ken Stubbs Registrars proxy for Philipp Grabensee Bruce Tonkin Registrars Roger Cochetti gTLD Richard Tindal gTLD Cary Karp gTLD Ellen Shankman IP Laurence Djolakian IP J. Scott Evans IP Milton Mueller NCDNH Youn Jung Park NCDNH proxy for Vany Martinez Vany Martinez NCDNH [absent, apologies, proxy to YJ Park] Louis Touton ICANN staff Glen de Saint Géry NC Secretary Philippe Renaut MP3 Recording Engineer/Secretariat
MP3 Recording of the meeting by the Secretariat: http://www.dnso.org/dnso/mp3/20020214.NCteleconf.mp3
Quorum present at 15:05 (all times reported are CET, which is UTC +1:00 during the winter in the Northern hemisphere)
Ph. Sheppard chaired this NC teleconference. Philip Sheppard welcomed the two new Names Council members to the call, Ellen Shankman and J. Scott Evans from the IP Constituency.
Agenda item 1: Approval of the Agenda
Ken Stubbs asked about the recording of the Ghana meeting and suggested a MP3
Philip Sheppard mentioned that he had sent out a request for sponsorship.
The agenda was approved
Agenda item 2: Approval of last summary
Approval of summary of the last teleconference, 17 January 2002
Ken Stubbs moved a motion to adopt the summary, seconded by J. Scott EvansDecision D1: The agenda and minutes of January 17th meeting were approved unanimously.
Agenda item 3: Names Council Chair
Philip Sheppard proposed discussion of the rules vote with regard to NC chair for which he would hand over the chair. He proposed that issues to do with any subsequent rule change or e-mail voting could be handled later.
Tony Holmes was handed the chair for the vote on Caroline Chicoine's motion to waive one part of the NC rules of procedure to allow the current chair to re-stand for election for a further term of six months. In recapping, he mentioned the e-mail vote outcome, 10 in favour, 9 against and 1 abstention, confirmed by the secretariat. He said that his own vote had been sent but not received by the secretariat. He reminded the NC that under the by-laws an e-mail vote has to be ratified or re-voted by a physical or telephone meeting .
The usual procedure for NC votes for election to the ICANN Board votes is an e-mail vote ratified by a teleconference or physical meeting. In this case the Secretariat checks by telephone if someone has not voted and takes the vote by phone.
Discussion followed on three options:
- to ratify the e-mail vote as received, thus disenfranchising the vote sent but not received,
- to ask the NC to confirm on the call the actual votes sent,
It was suggested that taking another vote would establish a new procedure as it would effectively make null the point of an e-mail vote. Nevertheless in view of a discussion that was becoming clouded by procedural dialogue, and in view of the exceptional circumstance of a vote sent but not received, Marilyn Cade proposed, seconded by J. Scott Evans:
To take a new vote on the call.
Decision D2: 13 in favour,
6 against, 2 abstentions. The motion is carried.
Now that it was agreed to hold a fresh vote, there was discussion on the
motion itself. Some members felt it is bad practice to change rules and that a new chairman should be elected
according to the old rules. Other members said that the NC was a young body,
had only recently established its own internal guidelines and that it was a sign
of vitality and flexibility to adapt guidelines to changing circumstances.
Marilyn Cade proposed, that separately from the election of a chair, after the said election, that the NC should have an extensive discussion about:
1 term of office
3 rotation as a concept versus qualifications
4 removal of chair
5 whether a vice chair is a good idea and any other related issues.
The NC then voted on the motion as originally proposed
by Caroline Chicoine, and seconded by Marilyn Cade:
Solely for the purposes of the NC Chair election taking place on February 14, 2002, the NC moves to waive the provision of Section 1.1 of the Rules of Procedure for the DNSO which prohibits a retiring NC Chair from running for re-election for a period of one year.
Decision D3: 12 in favour, 7 against, 2 abstentions. The motion is carried.
However, as this original motion referred to a earlier aspiration to hold the election itself on 14 February, the NC took a third vote to amend the timescale:
J. Scott Evans proposes, seconded by Ken Stubbs:
That the motion that has just carried as proposed by Caroline Chicoine of the IP Constituency and voted on be amended to read that the waiver will apply to any election of the Names Council held on or before March 1, 2002.
Decision D4: All in favour. The motion is carried.
Ken Stubbs then proposed the following motion to call for nominations, seconded by J. Scott Evans:
The nomination period for the Names
Council Chair for the next 6 month period be opened today, 14 February 2002,
and that the nominations remain open until 24:00 UTC on 20 February 2002. Instruct
the current Names Council Chair to call for a teleconference for a formal vote
by the NC on the candidate to be held no later than March 1st.
Decision D5: All in favour. The motion carried.
The Chair was handed back to Philip Sheppard. The teleconference to vote on the candidates nominated for NC Chair will be on Thursday 28 February at 15:00 CET, (14:00 UTC). Other points on the agenda around the item of NC Chair were deferred. ACTION: The Secretariat will send out a formal call for nominations.
Agenda Item 4: Waiting list and deletes
Philip Sheppard invited the BC and IPC to remind Council of their recent postings. Marilyn Cade speaking for the Business Constituency said that issues related to deletion and service offering had an impact on all users. A broad understanding of these issues is required so that the NC can better examine solutions. J. Scott Evans, IPC, agreed.
Louis Touton explained that a variety
of issues arose towards the middle of last year regarding the way in
which deletions of domain names were handled. What occurred had to do with technical
issues at Verisign Registry.
Since then, a number of temporary solutions have been implemented, and there
has been a robust discussion among the Registrars about how to address in
- the technical challenge raised by deletions and high demand,
- the services proposed or implemented by Registrars or Verisign.
Roger Cochetti pointed out that the Council should be mindful that their mandate is to address policy. Council agreed that part of the purpose of a briefing session would be to extract the policy issues arising from this subject.
It was proposed that ICANN staff work with Marilyn Cade for the
NC plus any other NC volunteers to plan an briefing of the key
issues in Ghana.
Agenda item 5: WHOIS referral from ICANN
Louis Touton reminded Council of a request from Verio Inc. regarding a change in the Registrar's Accreditation agreement about bulk WHOIS data obtained from registrars and the marketing uses for it.
The ICANN reconsideration committee recommended referring the issue to the DNSO.
Philip Sheppard asked if it could be referred to the existing Task Force or would it require a new group.
The WHOIS TF Chair said it was an issue that could be taken up by the WHOIS task force if the Council requested it.
Philip Sheppard proposed:
To refer the issue to the existing WHOIS TF and for the TF to report back by e-mail to the NC within 14 days how they intend to deal with it.
Decision 6: The proposal was adopted. There was one abstention.
Tuesday 12 February 2002 Agenda Item 7: UDRP Chairmanship Agenda Item 8: Posting rules to
the NC list - secretariats No other business was recorded. MEETING CLOSURE
Ph. Sheppard closed the meeting and thanked
Alexander Svensson for his participation. 17.28 end of call. Next NC teleconference, which will be an special meeting for the purposes
of electing the Council chair, will take place
on 28th February 2002 at 15:00 CET.
8:30 to 11:00 GA session
11:00 to 1:30 ICANN higher-layer naming session
15:00 to 17:00 Names Council
Marilyn Cade as interim chair on the Transfer TF agrees to liaise with Alexander Svensson on an information session on deletions. Louis Touton offered the help of ICANN staff.
Philip Sheppard went over the attendees list and there will be a quorum. DNSO webcasting will depend on sponsorship and a MP3 recording will be made subject to establishing a teleconference connection.
Caroline Chicoine and Milton Meuller are both retiring from the NC thus the succession as UDRP Chair needs to be decided upon. For the sake of continuity in the first phase of the task force's work, both co-chairs had volunteered to stay on for a short period.
J. Scott Evans proposed, seconded by Elisabeth Porteneuve:
The Names Council allow the current co-chairs to continue in the positions until such time as the responses to the surveys have been sent out to Task Force members for evaluation.
Decision 7: Motion is carried, all in favour
Amended version proposed by Milton
That after that period of distributing the surveys, the Task Force would elect its own Chairman.
Decision 8: Amendment is carried, all in favour.
Only NC members, the Board, and ICANN/DNSO staff can post to the NC list. A constituency secretariat has asked to be given posting rights following a case when they were unable to contact all three of their NC reps.
- some members said it is important to keep the list limited essentially to the elected representatives especially as what appears in the archives is public
- a permanent Secretariat could be asked to post in an emergency.
- this problem had happened once only.
It was agreed that in exceptional cases when their was timely information relevant to the Council from a constituency and that constituency's NC representatives could not be contacted, a constituency secretariat or chair could contact the DNSO Secretariat who would make a decision as to whether it should be posted and then do so with an explanatory cover note.
Agenda Item: AOB
© DNSO Names Council
Agenda Item 7: UDRP Chairmanship
Agenda Item 8: Posting rules to
the NC list - secretariats
No other business was recorded.
Ph. Sheppard closed the meeting and thanked Alexander Svensson for his participation.
17.28 end of call.
Next NC teleconference, which will be an special meeting for the purposes
of electing the Council chair, will take place
on 28th February 2002 at 15:00 CET.