RE: [registrars] WHOIS expiration date for Auto-renewed domains

["Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>]

> I agree that the expiry date should only be changed at the 
> end of 45 day or an explicit renew has taken place. It may be 
> a good idea that during the 45 day period or before an 
> explicit renew the whois has either "Pending Auto Renew"  or 
> "Auto Renew On' as the domain status.

I don't care how they do it as long as they keep their mitts off my cash
until the customer explicitly renews.



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-registrars@dnso.org 
> [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org] On Behalf Of Joyce Lin
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:47 PM
> To: Rob Hall
> Cc: registrars@dnso.org
> Subject: Re: [registrars] WHOIS expiration date for 
> Auto-renewed domains
> 
> 
> I agree that the expiry date should only be changed at the 
> end of 45 day or an explicit renew has taken place. It may be 
> a good idea that during the 45 day period or before an 
> explicit renew the whois has either "Pending Auto Renew"  or 
> "Auto Renew On' as the domain status.
> 
> Joyce Lin
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Hall" <rob@momentous.com>
> To: "Bhavin Turakhia" <bhavin.t@directi.com>; "'Paul 
> Stahura'" <stahura@enom.com>
> Cc: <registrars@dnso.org>; <info@verisign-grs.com>; "'Chuck 
> Gomes'" <cgomes@verisign.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:14 PM
> Subject: RE: [registrars] WHOIS expiration date for 
> Auto-renewed domains
> 
> 
> > Bhavin,
> >
> > I disagree. You absolutely CAN send an explicit renew in order to 
> > renew
> the
> > domain if you so choose.
> >
> > What I suggested was that the Registry should change the 
> expiry date 
> > they publish on whois, only after the 45 day period had 
> expired, or if 
> > an explicit renew was performed.
> >
> > I do not think that they will want to change the RRP, nor the 
> > auto-renew process.
> >
> > I would be happy with just changing the date that publishes in the 
> > whois, and keeping all other processes the same.  The debate of 
> > whether domains should be deleted on the 45 days etc. is a 
> different 
> > matter, and should be dealt with seperately.  Let's solve 
> this issue 
> > first, and then you can propose we visit the other one.
> >
> > Rob.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-registrars@dnso.org [mailto:owner-registrars@dnso.org]On
> > Behalf Of Bhavin Turakhia
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:56 AM
> > To: 'Rob Hall'; 'Paul Stahura'
> > Cc: registrars@dnso.org; info@verisign-grs.com; 'Chuck Gomes'
> > Subject: RE: [registrars] WHOIS expiration date for Auto-renewed 
> > domains
> >
> >
> > > I think the Registry needs to show the real expiry date, 
> not the new 
> > > one once they have auto-renewed.  I would couple this 
> with a change 
> > > in status as well.  Perhaps "Active - pending renewal" or 
> "Active - 
> > > Post Expiration".
> > >
> > > As a Registrar, I can always explicitly renew the domain, and the 
> > > date will forward by a year.
> >
> > The issue here is that you DO NOT send an explicit renew if 
> you wish 
> > to renew the name. that's where the problem stems from. 
> Therefore the 
> > registry never knows that you have renewed the name on our side
> >
> > This would actually require a modification to RRP and their 
> > implementation of AUTO-RENEW where an explicit renew 
> command needs to 
> > be sent, and if it is not sent then the domain would be 
> deleted after 
> > 45 days. This is the opposite behaviour of the current "assumed 
> > renewed after 45 days" behaviour
> >
> >
> >
>