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RE: [registrars] Use of proxies for WHOIS entries and impact on transfer policy
Correct me if
I am wrong or I have missed a post, but doesn't proxied whois information
violate a number items under "section 3. REGISTRAR OBLIGATIONS" of
the RAA.
Has ICANN commented
on this type of service?
Tom
Why is
anything broken? The proxy would no doubt have this covered with the party
involved. It is between them. As registrars, we deal with the registrant and
admin contact of record, period. If we begin to get concerned with what other
contractual arrangements may or may not exist, we are going get to bogged
down with a bunch of red tape that just isn't necessary.
This
policy should be a set of business rules, not a mechanism to attempt to steer
us into one particular business model or another. At least that is my
HO.
Tim
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re:
[registrars] Use of proxies for WHOIS entries and impact on transfer
policy
From: "Ross Wm. Rader" <ross@tucows.com>
Date: Tue,
September 24, 2002 6:00 pm
To: "Bruce Tonkin"
<Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>,
<registrars@dnso.org>
Bruce gets the prize for finding the first
significant loophole in the
policy. :)
You are indeed correct Bruce.
Proxied information breaks this
requirement...
"The Administrative
Contact and the Registrant, as outlined in the
Losing Registrar's publicly
accessible Whois service have the sole
authority to approve or deny a
transfer request to the Gaining
Registrar. In all cases, the wishes of the
Registrant supercede those
of the Administrative Contact."
This
creates a hole large enough to drive a permanent NACK through...
(these
are the relevant definitions from the doc...)
Contact, Administrative:
The administrative contact is an individual,
role or organization
authorized to interact with the registry or
registrar on behalf of the
Domain Holder. The administrative contact
should be able to answer
non-technical questions about the domain
name's registration and the Domain
Holder. In all cases, the
Administrative Contact is viewed as the
authoritative point of contact
for the domain name, second only to the
Domain Holder.
Domain Holder (Registrant): The individual or
organization that
registers a specific domain name. This individual or
organization
holds the right to use that specific domain name for a
specified
period of time, provided certain conditions are met and
the
registration fees are paid. This person or organization is the
"legal
entity" bound by the terms of the relevant service agreement with
the
registry operator for the TLD in question.
Any proposals as to
how we can best fix this? I will forward
substantive input to the
TF.
Thanks,
-rwr
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thought which they seldom use."
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce
Tonkin" <Bruce.Tonkin@melbourneit.com.au>
To:
<registrars@dnso.org>
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 8:37
PM
Subject: [registrars] Use of proxies for WHOIS entries and impact
on
transfer policy
> Hello All,
>
> I can see the
merits in using proxies to help fight against
> unsolicited
marketing.
>
> However it has the potential to break part of the
proposed transfers
> process.
>
> e.g if a registrar acts as
the admin contact, it would make it
> difficult
for
> a gaining
registrar to confirm the transfer with the registrant.
>
> In such
a situation the registry might need to maintain centrally a
contact
>
for the actual registrant, and accredited registrars could retrieve
>
that contact for the purpose of a authenticating a transfer
request.
>
> Regards,
>
Bruce
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