FW: [registrars] Latest Verisign Survey

["Beckwith, Bruce" <bbeckwith@verisign.com>]

Posted on Chuck Gomes' behalf.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gomes, Chuck 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 10:56 AM
To: Beckwith, Bruce; Sheridan, Chris
Subject: RE: [registrars] Latest Verisign Survey


Bruce,

If you want to post this on behalf of me feel free.

Chuck

Jim,

As I think you have already learned, your concern about Whois data does not
apply because VGRS would implement a "thin" version of EPP so the data
submitted would be the essentially the same as it is today.

Regarding your comments about regulation, VGRS has never claimed to be
unregulated.  In fact, what we have said is that we are regulated by the
agreements we have executed with ICANN, the U.S. DoC and of course we are
regulated by the laws of the United States Government. In our registry
agreements with ICANN we have a clear and definite requirement to maintain
the "Chinese wall" as you call it.

I know it is apparently hard to believe on your part, but our motive for the
survey was to find out what our customers needs and wishes were with regard
to the timing of EPP implementation.  In our view it did not make sense to
move ahead quickly with an EPP implementation if registrars would rather
move more slowly.

Chuck Gomes


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beckwith, Bruce 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 3:51 PM
> To: Sheridan, Chris; Gomes, Chuck
> Subject: FW: [registrars] Latest Verisign Survey
> 
> 
> FYI
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Archer [mailto:jarcher@registrationtek.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 3:44 PM
> To: Rick Wesson
> Cc: registrars@dnso.org; sheridan@verisign-grs.net
> Subject: Re: [registrars] Latest Verisign Survey
> 
> 
> I was not aware the protocol provided for a "thin" mode.  If 
> that is the 
> case, then this is a different story.  I would need to know 
> exactly what 
> data we would be required to provide to decide if I support 
> this.  I do 
> agree from a purely technical standpoint, the XML based EPP 
> is superior to 
> RRP.
> 
> Unfortunately, the survey Verisign GRS put out does not say 
> how they would 
> implement it.  So, in an abundance of caution, I would still 
> have to oppose 
> it.  Maybe Chris Sheridan can fill in the details.
> 
> Jim
> 
> --On Wednesday, June 19, 2002 12:24 PM -0700 Rick Wesson 
> <wessorh@ar.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Jim,
> >
> > it was not clear if VeriSign wants to run EPP in thick or 
> thin mode so
> > some of you worries may or may not be justified.
> >
> > -rick
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Jun 2002, Jim Archer wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All...
> >>
> >> I just received the latest customer survey from Verisign, 
> asking how
> >> quickly we want to move to an EPP registry.
> >>
> >> I would urge everyone not to be in too big a hurry to do 
> this.  We all
> >> know our whois data is being mined and we further know 
> that Verisign
> >> Registrar has been hit with an injunction to stop their deceptive
> >> transfer notice marketing, as a result of Bulk Registrar's 
> legal action.
> >> And, we know that GoDaddy filed a suit claiming that 
> Verisign was still
> >> sending these notices, just not to Bulk Registrars 
> customers.  Verisign
> >> has not denied this.
> >>
> >> We also know that Verisign insists it has no monopoly, so it is not
> >> subject to regulation.  That would mean that the "Chinese 
> Wall" they
> >> maintain is not mandated by law and any violation of that 
> policy would
> >> be at the very worst a contract violation and perhaps a 
> violation of
> >> nothing at all.
> >>
> >> Given all that, I have to question the wisdom of handing 
> them my customer
> >> data.  If they drop RRP, we're going to have to give all 
> our contact data
> >> to them.  Given the track record on the use of such data 
> it would seem
> >> the chances of abuse of that data are high.
> >>
> >> I urge you all to oppose this change.
> >>
> >> Jim
> >>
> 
> 
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