Re: [registrars] FW: Registrar Accuses VeriSign Of Predatory Marketing
Exactly! There are two issues, the presentation of the piece and whether or
not it is misleading, and then just how they got the data in the first
They did not have our bulk whois and even though many of us get concerned
about their close relationship with VeriSign-GRS, the registry does not
have this information. We have never, and will never, sell or rent our list
The mail piece that I got myself at home was for three domain names that I
registered through Go Daddy directly and have never moved, yet they had the
correct expiration date AND contact info.
That doesn't leave a lot of other possibilities besides mining our whois
data. If anyone has any other theories I'd certainly be interested in
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [registrars] FW: Registrar Accuses VeriSign Of Predatory
From: "Bhavin Turakhia" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Date: Wed, March 27, 2002 9:35 pm
To: "Registrars@Dnso. Org" <email@example.com>
My concern is
* How are they getting the name, mailing address and expiry date of
these domain names??
[mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]On Behalf Of Saurabh
Pande Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 2:48 PM
To: Internal List
Subject: Registrar Accuses VeriSign Of Predatory Marketing
Registrar Accuses VeriSign Of Predatory Marketing
by David McGuire
Go Daddy Software, an Internet address seller and Web hosting company,
says that addressing giant VeriSign Inc. is attempting to dupe Go
Daddy customers into transferring their domain name registrations to
In a letter to its customers, Go Daddy accused VeriSign of sending out
domain name "renewal notices" to Go Daddy users. The fine print of the
direct mail notices reveals that signing and returning one of them
authorizes VeriSign to transfer a customer's Internet address from Go
Daddy to VeriSign.
"The domain expiration notices are designed so that it is not obvious
that the notices are from VeriSign Inc. as opposed to Go Daddy
Software," Go Daddy President Bob Parsons wrote in the letter.
"What it relies on is deception. It relies on the individual to be
unsuspecting (and) uninformed. It's a trick," Parsons told Newsbytes.
"To me, that's no way to do business."
Go Daddy has posted an electronic image of one of the VeriSign notices
- which Parsons says went out to Go Daddy customers - on its Web site
at http://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/private_vsrn.asp?display=letter .
VeriSign spokesman Pat Burns confirmed that his company had sent out
the notices as a mass mailing, but said that there was nothing
improper about them.
"Everything we send has our name on it," Burns said. "It's a
competitive marketplace. We reach out to a variety of different
customers to make them aware of our services."
But while Parsons conceded that the VeriSign mailing did bear
VeriSign's corporate logo, he said the notice contained no pitch to
customers about why they should switch their service away from Go
Parsons said he has received notes from several Go Daddy customers who
thought it was a simple renewal form.
Parsons said that Go Daddy executives are still attempting to
determine whether they can or should take action against VeriSign over
The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) -
which manages the Internet's addressing system and accredits Internet
registrars like Go Daddy and VeriSign - will look into the matter,
ICANN spokeswoman Mary Hewitt said today.