RE: [ga] WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions
- To: "Jeff Williams" <email@example.com>, "Dora Gerber" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
- Subject: RE: [ga] WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions
- From: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <email@example.com>
- Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2003 19:52:33 -0500
- Cc: "DPF" <firstname.lastname@example.org>, "Vittorio Bertola" <email@example.com>, "Sabine van-almsick (E-mail)" <firstname.lastname@example.org>, <email@example.com>, <DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org>, <firstname.lastname@example.org>, <email@example.com>
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- Thread-Topic: [ga] WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions
Of course I'm happy to thank Dora publicly.
You might want to note that my name is actually spelled "Marilyn", not Merilyn as you've probably accidently misspelled it.
However, I answer to all efforts to reach me.... when it is seemingly apparent that the intent is to reach the real me.
From: Jeff Williams [mailto:email@example.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 8:07 PM
To: Dora Gerber
Cc: Cade,Marilyn S - LGA; DPF; Vittorio Bertola; Sabine van-almsick
(E-mail); firstname.lastname@example.org; DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org;
Subject: Re: [ga] WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions
Dora and all former DNSO GA members,
Dora Gerber wrote:
> Dear Marilyn and all,
> FYI - this is how the CH and LI people do it:
Thank you Dora for this interesting information. I am sure that
Merilyn appriciated it also even though she may not admit it publicly.
I found the following parts most interesting (Excerpts follow):
22.Warnings: CH/LI DOM-REG may issue warnings in case of
obvious possible name onflicts or when names are likely to
conflict with another name, trade name, trade mark (tm), service
mark (SM) etc. CH/LI DOM-REG, however, has no obligation
to issue such warnings. After a warning has been issued, the
corresponding application for a second level domain name is
interrupted until until confirmation by the registrant in the
form of a new application is received. CH/LI DOM-REG may,
however, at its own discretion interrupt the registration until
the entity seeking for registration submits within reasonable
time to CH/LI DOM-REG a written confirmation of the holder
of the conflicting name, trade name, trade mark (tm), service
mark (SM) etc. that the application is valid and that holder
agrees with the application. In such a case, a new application
form needs to be submitted to the registry when the case is
resolved for both parties.
23.Suspension of registration: when an entity submits grossly
erroneous and/or misleading application forms repeatedly
and/or in large quantities, the registry may suspend the
registration process for such an entity until, in estimation
of CH/LI DOM-REG, the registration process can be
restored in an orderly manner.
24.WHOIS entry: CH/LI DOM-REG registers domain
names in an own repository which answers authoritatively
for second level domain names in CH and LI. This information
may also be retrieved from a search engine run by SWITCH.
European domain names are contained in a distributed database
maintained by RIPE NCC which can be queried by means of
command 'whois -h whois.ripe.net <domain name>'. This query
supplies the name of the domain, its administrative and technical
contacts and pointers to hosts providing name service for the
domain. To use WHOIS with a local whois client type
'whois -h whois.nic.ch domainname.ch/li' for on-line queries
of second level domain name information in CH and LI.
25.Privacy: CH/LI DOM-REG reserves the right to make
entries in the WHOIS data bases publicly available in
any electronic and written form.
26.Applicable law, jurisdiction: this domain name policy shall
be governed by and construed according to Swiss law.
The courts of Zürich shall have exclusive jurisdiction to
settle any disputes that may arise out of or in connection
with this domain name policy.
> Regards, Dora Gerber
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cade,Marilyn S - LGA" <email@example.com>
> To: "DPF" <firstname.lastname@example.org>; "Vittorio Bertola" <email@example.com>;
> "Sabine van-almsick (E-mail)" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Cc: <email@example.com>; <DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org>;
> <firstname.lastname@example.org>; <email@example.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2003 11:25 PM
> Subject: RE: [ga] WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions
> > David, you are a great resource to help us find out more about what ccTLDs
> do... in this area. Do you know what Domainz does? Is there a way to find
> out what some of the larger ccTLDs do? Such as .de; .uk; .au; .fr; etc.?
> Perhaps there is learning which the gTLDs can take from the ccTLDs. Many
> ccTLDs have regisrtrations from other countries so have the postal delivery
> issues as well.
> > I'd be happy to post any relevant and factual responses we might be able
> to get to the WHOIS TF list.
> > Regards, Marilyn Cade
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DPF [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:47 PM
> > To: Vittorio Bertola
> > Cc: email@example.com; Cade,Marilyn S - LGA;
> > DNSO.Secretariat@dnso.org; firstname.lastname@example.org; email@example.com
> > Subject: Re: [ga] WHOIS accuracy, and name deletions
> > On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 12:15:40 +0100, Vittorio Bertola
> > <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> > >On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 22:19:59 +1300, you wrote:
> > >
> > >>If the registrant is a legitimate user, then once their domain stops
> > >>working they will eventually contact the registrar to get it fixed.
> > >
> > >The problem is that it might be too late - you might already be losing
> > >valuable e-mail messages or website traffic. So even before putting
> > >the domain on hold all efforts have to be made to contact the
> > >registrant and fix the problem (and let alone the fact that one has
> > >the right not to expose his/her identity to the whole world).
> > The issue of should you be allowed to be anonymous is a slightly
> > different debate. For now the policy is you need correct data and the
> > issue is how to mitigate potential loss of a domain and purchase by
> > someone else (which is far worse).
> > I agree putting on hold is not without consequences and there should
> > be a minimum of three attempts to contact the registrant.
> > DPF
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> > MSN: firstname.lastname@example.org
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