Re: [ga] WHOIS policy primer
I really don't have any concern about suppressing publication of the
Registrant's address, e-mail and telephone/fax numbers, on an opt-out
The loss of utility would be nominal, if any at all, and that should
satisfy the concerns expressed WRT potential stalking, Spam, etc.
The name of the Registrant, a valid Technical Contact with full
information and the DNS information should still be public. There is
utility in that.
I don't know a good reason why the billing contact information needs
to be public, though.
An opt-out with an associated fee, similar to getting an unlisted
telephone number, is probably the best approach, since some (maybe
most - look at the white pages) don't really care if their information
Wednesday, August 28, 2002, 12:11:41 AM, L. Gallegos <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
LG> On 27 Aug 2002, at 23:50, Don Brown wrote:
>> If the availability of the WhoIs data has caused some harm to anyone,
>> then it should be a point of concern. Automobiles have also caused
>> some harm, but that's a different subject.
LG> We all have been told of harm caused. It is an issue, but one that is
LG> ignored. As for autos, your analogy would be like saying that the DNS
LG> has caused harm. No one is saying get rid of the DNS. If you want to
LG> find the owner of an auto, most states now will not just hand out the
LG> database information to any individual who asks. Most states also do
LG> not use SSN#'s for driver's licenses and won't simply provide you with a
LG> driver's license number. If you provide your SSN# or drivers' license
LG> number for ID purposes, you have the right to insist it not be shared by
LG> third parties.
>> Perhaps regulation of the users of the data is better and more
>> absolute than revoking access to all. Maybe that idealistic and not
>> very pragmatic, but here has to be a coming together somewhere.
LG> If that were feasible, given the reasons for the existence of the Whois
LG> currently, I might agree. It is not feasible, however. First, every
LG> registrar and registry would have to cooperate. Second, every country
LG> would have to cooperate. ICANN and its backers are certainly NOT
LG> going to agree to keep the information private, are they. Restricting
LG> users of the data is the same as requiring a legal order to obtain it, IMO.
LG> Other than a tech contact, what would you "need" the data for?
LG> If your use of the WHOIS is for pursuit of domain name holders, then
LG> you should not have access to it any more than you do for telco
LG> customers. If your use is for technical admin contact, then there are
LG> tons of web based dig tools and always command line tools for tracing
LG> via IP address. IP whois info is more accurate anyway.
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