Re: [ga] Re: news from bucharest: at large exists again

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com>]

Alex and all assembly members,

Alexander Svensson wrote:

> At 27.06.2002 08:50, James Love wrote:
> >Vittorio, there is a big problem that you should mention.  The Esther/Board version of the at-large is the exact opposite of what it was.  Instead of the public electing their own leaders, now the ICANN board will pick which members of the public can speak for the public.
>
> I think you get it wrong. The AC members will not be picked
> by the Board, but by organizations composed of Internet users.

  Yes but the ICANN board PICKS which "Organizations"
of users, will be the ones that will "Select" these representatives.
THAT is in other words, what Jamie was saying.  So Alex,
save us you particular spin, if you don't mind.

>
> *IF* the Board should accept and implement such an ALAC at
> all. BTW, I believe it's good that these organizations (and
> e.g. their membership lists and resources like web sites and
> mailing lists) are not under the control of ICANN.

  Yes they in effect will be under the indirect control of
ICANN, because the ICANN BOD and staff will SELECT
which user group organizations that will than "Select" whom
represents the stakeholders/users.  THAT is frankly just
another shell game!

>
>
> >You know.  Like in the old USSR.   As you know, individual cannot join
> >the at large on their own,
>
> ? Individuals can of course join these so-called At Large
> structures; that's the whole point of At Large!
>
> >and ICANN will decide which organizations can join,
> >and ICANN will decide who "really" represents user interests, and how.
>
> ...unless there are good criteria for such organizations
> which can be applied neutrally.

  And how and whom decides that these are the best or
excepted criterion?  Well in case no one has guessed yet,
it of course will be the present ICANN BoD and staff of course,
which is already not trusted.  Is that representative?  I don't think so...

>
>
> I'm not highly enthusiastic for the ALAC idea, to make that
> clear. But it *may* be a way the At Large could prove that it's
> not only discussing At Large itself, but also handle issues like
> Whois, new TLDs etc. and have a meaningful role in policy
> development. (Don't attack the messenger, please: I believe
> that the At Large can do that. Some Board members clearly
> don't.)
>
> Best regards,
> /// Alexander
>
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