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Re: [ga] DNSO Matching Funds Withdrawn
Peter and all assembly members,
Peter de Blanc wrote:
> Jeff:
>
> 1. The "setting up" only took us a few hours, not a few days!
> The discussion about where, how, and who would manage took a month.
When I say set up I meant the whole enchilada! Creating the account,
management of the account, who and how...
>
>
> 2. I did not realiuze that Verisign just announced that they will NOT be
> matching what already has been paid in. Did I miss something somewhere?
Yes you did right on this thread..
>
>
> Peter de Blanc
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf Of Jeff
> Williams
> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 9:04 PM
> To: Peter de Blanc
> Cc: DannyYounger@cs.com; ga@dnso.org; RCochetti@verisign.com
> Subject: Re: [ga] DNSO Matching Funds Withdrawn
>
> Peter and all assembly members,
>
> Peter de Blanc wrote:
>
> > I do not agree about "worthless pledges".
>
> Of course I am not surprised that you don't agree...
>
> >
> >
> > I was /am on the Names Council, and Budget committee, and went thru
> > the entire process. The fact is, that at least 6 months have gone by
> > with no contributions to that fund.
>
> This is mainly because the GA was not allowed to set up it's own fund
> or collect it's own funds that may have contributed
> later or at the same time by the NC. That was a very bad
> tactical and strategic error that seem to now be coming home
> to roost.
>
> >
> >
> > The offer was made in good faith, and a lot of time spent on the
> > admistrative machinations about how to accept and manage the fund. Was
>
> > that time wasted? Who knows.
>
> Looks like it was wasted, without a doubt IMHO...
>
> > If we had not done everything necessary to
> > "prepare to accept money", we could not now be at this stage - which
> > is simply that no one is coming forward with donations to be matched.
>
> INEGroup uses as part of our funding a matching fund method. Setting
> up to receive those funds took all of about two days.
>
> >
> >
> > I DO expect Verigign will match the donations to date, as small as
> > they may be.
>
> Well they have just announced that they will NOT be... Again so much
> for *Pledges*...
>
> >
> >
> > Peter de Blanc
> > .VI
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@dnso.org [mailto:owner-ga@dnso.org] On Behalf Of Jeff
> > Williams
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 5:26 PM
> > To: DannyYounger@cs.com
> > Cc: ga@dnso.org; RCochetti@verisign.com
> > Subject: Re: [ga] DNSO Matching Funds Withdrawn
> >
> > Danny and all assembly members,
> >
> > I was wondering when this shoe would drop. Looks like it has. Not
> > really much of a surprise. Next will be the $200m for the ..ORT/.NET
> > divestiture... Just another notch if the nearly worthless
> > *Pledges* idea...
> >
> > DannyYounger@cs.com wrote:
> >
> > > Forwarded from the Council list:
> > > http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/council/Arc09/msg00214.html
> > >
> > > Please note the e-mail below from Versign.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@verisign.com>
> > > To: "'Philip Sheppard'" <philip.sheppard@aim.be>
> > > Cc: "Cochetti, Roger" <RCochetti@verisign.com>; "'DNSO Secretariat'"
>
> > > <DNSO.secretariat@dnso.org>
> > > Sent: 01 March 2002 14:02
> > >
> > > Philip,
> > >
> > > Two years ago VeriSign announced that it would match any donations
> > > made to support the work of ICANN's Domain Name Supporting
> > > Organization and Names Council for up to $100,000. The purpose of
> > > this note is to advise you, with some regret, that the offer is
> > > hereby
> >
> > > withdrawn.
> > >
> > > We have felt for some time that one of the major issues facing the
> > > DNSO and the Names Council is a lack of resources and that increased
>
> > > resources, while not a solution to all of the DNSO's problems, would
>
> > > go a long way towards ensuring the competent functioning of the
> > > Council and the provision to it of more and better-researched
> > > information. In particular, we thought that increased resources
> > > would:
> > > * Allow the Council to hire staff to take the lead in developing and
>
> > > implementing well defined processes and procedures to facilitate its
>
> > > consensus management role
> > > * Minimize the amount of subjectivity and increase the amount of
> > > measurable objective criteria in the consensus-building process
> > > * Provide clearer direction for working groups, committees,
> > > constituencies, etc.
> > > * Make it more readily possible for the NC to perform its role of
> > > managing the consensus-building process in a way that will create
> > > increased confidence throughout the Internet community.
> > >
> > > To encourage such donations, we offered to match any donation made
> > > by any company or individual up to a total of $100,000. Since the
> > > offer was first made in 2000, we have repeated it and a fair amount
> > > of work was actually done by Names Council committees to design a
> > > neutral structure to administer whatever funds were received.
> > >
> > > Despite repeated appeals, no commitments for funds were received
> > > except from a couple members of the gTLD Registry Constituency.
> > > This is all the more disappointing given the fact that quite a few
> > > companies who are several times larger than VeriSign have employees
> > > who sit on the Names Council and participate in most of its
> > > committees; and that there are now nearly 100 gTLD registrars, eight
>
> > > gTLD registries, well over a hundred ccTLD operators, and hundreds
> > > of ISP's and re-sellers who purchase and re-sell domain name
> > > registration
> >
> > > services. Many of these are profitable and many are quite large, so
>
> > > their reason for not donating anything to the DNSO has never been
> > > clear.
> > >
> > > Possibly the reason donations were not received is not so much a
> > > result of organizations not being willing or able to make them but
> > > rather a result of the fact that the NC itself never promoted this
> > > offer. It is our opinion that it is critical to create and
> > > implement processes and procedures to facilitate the NC's consensus
> > > management role in an objective manner. So it seems unfortunate
> > > that the NC has never taken any meaningful action to establish
> > > objective, community-wide consensus management processes.
> > >
> > > After trying to help the DNSO through community donations for almost
>
> > > two years, the time has come to recognize that this approach did not
>
> > > work.
> > >
> > > Please forward this communication to the Names Council.
> > >
> > > Respectfully,
> > >
> > > Chuck Gomes
> > > Vice President, Policy & Compliance
> > > VeriSign Global Registry Services
> > >
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> >
> > Regards,
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