Re: [ga] WLS

[Abel Wisman <abel@able-towers.com>]

I agree, you can sell me those rights, and i can force you to deliver (if you 
garantuee delivery) or pay me damages.
and as the owner, you can garantuee the delivery

the registry can never (in an open market of registrations) garantuee 
delivery, unless they are abusing their position.

where is the line, once they can pre-register names that are currently in use 
and will be deleted at any given time in future? will they next pre-reg every 
letter combination there is so EVERY domain registration will cost the 
registrar $ 40 ?

the registry has the contractual duty to delete a domain.
once deleted anybody can register the same string of letters according to all 
rules that apply to new  regsitrations

IF these rules are applied the registry has the same chances of ganing the 
new domain as anybody else, and makes themselves liable for large suits 
against them for not performing the delivery they promise, because they have 
to deliver.

So only by evading those rules (iow registering before anybody else, or 
excluding the string of charachters from being new regsitration) can they 
perform.
If they are allowed to evade in these cases they are allowed in all cases and 
have become registrar with a large edge.

beware, all new domains will be costing $ 40 prereg soon!

hmmm

In short (last time) 
the domain gets deleted (registry obligation) and is free for the world to be 
registered
either way, the registry has to not delete it or manipulate the register to 
"get" the domain, both being violations of their contract, or play chances 
with those who are expert in that game and in the latter situation i suggest 
the registrar verisign does it and becomes just another contender in that 
field.

abel



On Friday 11 January 2002 5:30 pm, you wrote:
> Hi Abel
>
> > I seem to speak in riddles or foerign tongue (I know my typing is bad).
>
> No, you are just misunderstanding me a little.
>
> <snip>
>
> > beartrading (see options almost identical again the rights to buy/selll
> > are sold it contains rights to an existing entity)
>
> The domain name is an "existing entity" at the time you subscribe.  But you
> are not buying a domain name.  You are buying the "rights to register" a
> domain name.
>
> And I can legally sell you such "rights".  People do it all the time.
>
> Best regards
> Patrick Corliss
> _________________________________________________________
> I'm on the Board of auDA (the .au country code) as well as TLDA (the Top
> Level Domain Association).   Please note that anything I write is my own
> personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect the views of any body
> with which I am associated.  Please also note IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer).

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