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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Fleming" <jfleming@anet.com>
To: <users@ipv6.org>; <6bone@isi.edu>; <ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com>; <ngtrans@sunroof.sun.com>
Cc: <lynn@icann.org>; <mmr@darwin.ptvy.ca.us>
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 12:25 PM
Subject: "one true protocol"


> When people use alternate TLDs, they are labeled "alt" and people
> declare that those people are not connected to *THE* Internet.
> The "alt people" are ridiculed for having a small share of the market.
> Some people tell the "alt people" to run along and find another sand-box
> to play in. This does not seem to happen with IPv6 sales people.
> 
> It has been confirmed by IPv6 users that they are not connected to
> the Internet. IPv4 systems can not talk to native IPv6 systems. It would
> appear that IPv6 is some sort of "alt protocol" movement. The IPv6
> people have their own root-servers, yet, ICANN and the IETF claim
> that there can only be one true-root. IPv6 sales people do not seem to
> be concerned about this. IPv6 sales people also do not seem to be
> concerned about the IPv6 Privacy Problem.
> 
> While all of this is going on, IPv4 users are quite happy and can now
> expand their addressing with no change required to the equipment that
> connects them. The .BIZ TLD is now considered not to be "alt", it once
> was. It appears that the "consensus" of the Internet community is to move
> forward with the evolution of IPv4. There is a lot of room for expansion.
> The "alt protocol" people appear to be determined to fragment the
> Internet.
> 
> It is unclear why ICANN and the IETF do not declare that
> there is "one true protocol" along with their "one true root".
> Maybe that would lead to the declaration that there is
> "one true address space" ?
> 
> 
> Jim Fleming
> http://www.IPv8.info
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry@piermont.com>
> To: <users@ipv6.org>; <6bone@isi.edu>; <ipng@sunroof.eng.sun.com>; <ngtrans@sunroof.sun.com>
> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 2:45 AM
> Subject: ad hoc list created to discuss v6 usage measurement
> 
> 
> > 
> > I've been trying to get a bunch of statistics together on v6 usage
> > growth and have found that few people are collecting serious
> > statistics. I thought I'd start a small discussion on the subject --
> > accurate statistics are important to demonstrate that v6 is indeed
> > deploying and that people should spend time and money on preparing and
> > deploying their own networks.
> > 
> > I've set up an ad hoc list, "metrics@ipv6.org" to host the
> > discussion. Subscribe via majordomo@ipv6.org.
> > 
> > Perry
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> > 
> 

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