Re: [ga] [ADMIN] Suspension of Dave Crocker

["JandL" <jandl@jandl.com>]

Are we not carrying this too far?  For years, list members have 
referred to the "crispy-crocket" duo and there  have been parody's 
of other list members' names.  While it is not the preferable method 
to refer to members, it is certainly not grounds for being banned 
from the list.  I have been the target of such posts in the past as 
well, especially from the duo.

I would rather see a name parody than some of the really cruel 
things said here.  It is simply a sign of frustration.  

I have a feeling that Joanna Lane has a thick enough skin to 
consider the source, ignore it and move on.  

Personally, I believe that the duo are paid disrupters who do a good 
job at their intended purpose.  I also think that the "delete key" is 
an ample method to ridding oneself of the lies, innuendo and attacks 
by them or anyone else.  I do not believe in banning for those posts 
as much as I feel they do no one any good.

Just my opinion.

Leah

> While agreeing this should not be endlessly debated in the public
> forum, I too note that "rcn" -- whom Joanna Lane appears to work for
> jo-uk@rcn.com)  -- does not appear to have a UK office. Perhaps Ms
> Lane could respond?
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "J. William Semich" <bill@mail.nic.nu>
> To: "Kevin J. Connolly" <connollyk@rspab.com>; <harald@Alvestrand.no>;
> <ga@dnso.org> Cc: <dhc2@dcrocker.net> Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001
> 6:11 AM Subject: Re: [ga] [ADMIN] Suspension of Dave Crocker
> 
> 
> > I also object, for the same reasons.
> >
> > And I'd like to request verification that the entity referred to,
> > jo-uk,
> is
> > an actual, individual person, and not a personality "created" by
> > some "real" person for GA posting purposes only, in effect as a
> > JOKE. Searches on the Web only turn up references to this email
> > address and name WRT
> ICANN
> > - no other identifiable activity appears anywhere else, on any other
> topic.
> > The email address, the jo-uk, seems to have spontaneoulsy come to
> > earth as one of the many side effects of the creation of ICANN. No
> > surprise that some members of this list might think a JOKE is being
> > played on them by
> the
> > entity behind the email address jo-uk.
> >
> > Bill Semich
> >
> > At 08:39 AM 4/5/01 -0400, Kevin J. Connolly wrote:
> > >I object.
> > >I object to the lack of even-handedness.
> > >While so many posters on this list feel not the least constrained
> > >by the
> > 5-posts per day limit, others are squashed for making the very
> > obvious observation that the non-suspended partner in the exchange
> > does indeed
> have
> > an email address that makes an English speaker think that it's some
> > kind
> of
> > JOKE.
> > >
> > >Okay, go ahead. I said it too. You wanna suspend me now, too?
> > >
> > >Kevin J. Connolly
> > >Attorney and Counselor at Law
> > >Robinson Silverman Pearce Aronsohn & Berman, LLP
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> > >This note is not legal advice. If it were legal advice, it would
> > >come
> with
> > an invoice.
> > >
> > >Live, like there's no tomorrow.....
> > >     Love, like you've never been hurt.....
> > >          And dance, like no one's watching.
> > >
> > >>>> Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@Alvestrand.no> 04/05/01 05:38AM
> > >>>> >>>
> > >The monitor has watched with sadness and some amazement the degree
> > >of innuendo and accusations being tossed around in the debate
> > >between Dave Crocker and Joanna Lane.
> > >
> > >However, a new low was reached in
> > >http://www.dnso.org/clubpublic/ga/Arc07/msg00133.html, the last
> > >sentence
> ofD
> > > ave Crocker's mail.
> > >
> > >This was entirely irrelevant, inappropriate, and probably intended
> > >to be insulting. (not being a native English speaker, I'm not even
> > >sure I get the
> point...)
> > >
> > >Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net> is hereby suspended from the list
> > >for 2 weeks, until April 19, 2001.
> > >
> > >BTW: Initial complaints came from William Walsh and Chris Ambler.
> > >The source of complaint was not a factor in the evaluation, but it
> > >is not
> onlym
> > > e who think this was over the line.
> > >
> > >             Harald Alvestrand
> > >             List monitor
> > >
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